posted 19 September 2002 12:31 PM         

1. Take a run at it, throw it out in fornt of you five yards and hit in on the run at the 14 yard line. OK, we're not all DJ'd so we'd probbaly miss it and look like an eejit.

2. Stand over it, aim for the guy who looks the most unsure of himself, and blast it at him.

3. Try bounce it off the ground five yards out.

4. Just concentrate on hitting it as hard as possible.

As for goalies, they all seem to stand out from the goal line to have chance of getting across to shots without hitting off the other defenders. This didn't work too well for Davey v Wa'ford.

posted 19 September 2002 12:44 PM           

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Originally posted by Paddy Mac's Tractor:
Ontechnical issues, what's the best way to take a penalty.

1. Take a run at it, throw it out in fornt of you five yards and hit in on the run at the 14 yard line. OK, we're not all DJ'd so we'd probbaly miss it and look like an eejit.

2. Stand over it, aim for the guy who looks the most unsure of himself, and blast it at him.

3. Try bounce it off the ground five yards out.

4. Just concentrate on hitting it as hard as possible.

As for goalies, they all seem to stand out from the goal line to have chance of getting across to shots without hitting off the other defenders. This didn't work too well for Davey v Wa'ford.

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U dont have to miss a penalty to look like an eejit, tool.

posted 19 September 2002 12:52 PM         

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Originally posted by Paddy Mac's Tractor:
Ontechnical issues, what's the best way to take a penalty.

1. Take a run at it, throw it out in fornt of you five yards and hit in on the run at the 14 yard line. OK, we're not all DJ'd so we'd probbaly miss it and look like an eejit.

2. Stand over it, aim for the guy who looks the most unsure of himself, and blast it at him.

3. Try bounce it off the ground five yards out.

4. Just concentrate on hitting it as hard as possible.

As for goalies, they all seem to stand out from the goal line to have chance of getting across to shots without hitting off the other defenders. This didn't work too well for Davey v Wa'ford.

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On taking the penalty, I'd go for a combination of 3 and 4. Bouncing it 2 to 3 yards out. Dont lift it too high, strike with a low trajectory so it doesn't bounce too high and hit the body.
Alternatively, lifting the ball fairly high, aiming for the roof of the net. The thinking behind this one is that all that they can stop the sliothar with up there are the hurleys i.e., no bodies to stop the ball. If you mis**** you have the consolation of a point!

As for Goalies standing in front of the backs, I think thats a disaster. Best method for this is, I think, for everyone to stand tall, edging forward in a line, making the goals look smaller, then just as the ball is about to be struck everyone takes up their preferred ready position. Some crouch down, some stand tall, etc.

posted 19 September 2002 02:25 PM         

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Originally posted by Paddy Mac's Tractor:

Ay, I was at that game myself in Charleville. Mark Foley played for Farna (took the frees). They also had Barry Harte as captain. Limerick had a fair few of the minor team of 84 playing for them.

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PMT, Mark Foley must be older than I thought. Or, else, fierce young young when playing in that match. How old iss Foley, any road?

posted 19 September 2002 02:36 PM         

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Kirby is a style no. 3. He has a quick enough stroke as could be seen from his shot prior to Limericks second goal on Sunday[/B]

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More good news for Limerick, I think, 3. Ye'll hope he goes on to be another Paul Kelly. 'Tis extraordinary out of a young lad of 16/17 to be taking the frees for an A-I U21 outfit. What will he like by the time he's 20?

posted 19 September 2002 02:39 PM         

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Originally posted by DEISE OG:
What about Brendan Landers?? Or is he a no. 4?? I cant remember.

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Landers is a 4, Deise Og. But thanks anyway.

Surely to jaysus someone knows of a no. 2 keeper... It keeping me awake of nights. Surely someone saw a Junior B camogie goalie in Longford acting in said fashion, sometime or another...

posted 19 September 2002 02:49 PM         

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Originally posted by Paddy Mac's Tractor:
Ontechnical issues, what's the best way to take a penalty.

1. Take a run at it, throw it out in fornt of you five yards and hit in on the run at the 14 yard line. OK, we're not all DJ'd so we'd probbaly miss it and look like an eejit.

2. Stand over it, aim for the guy who looks the most unsure of himself, and blast it at him.

3. Try bounce it off the ground five yards out.

4. Just concentrate on hitting it as hard as possible.

As for goalies, they all seem to stand out from the goal line to have chance of getting across to shots without hitting off the other defenders. This didn't work too well for Davey v Wa'ford.

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Another great hurling topic, PMT. Fair play. Perhaps it deserves a thread of its own?

As for taking penalties: a lot depends on whether it's been raining or not. Carey's penalty just before halftime in the '92 Final
showed the potent possibilities of a greasy turf.

Equally, with a rock-hard square in July or August, going low is a good option. I remember Ger Fennelly scoring some hummers in Thomastown in such fashion.

Christy Ring's take on penalties was that you have to strike the ball 'on the up': that's to say, you have to strike the sliothar as it's has started to descend from the highest point of where it went up in the air from the pick with the hurl. If you decide to go low -- wet day or scorching day -- making sure you still strike 'on the up' requires considerable technical skill.

posted 19 September 2002 02:50 PM         

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Originally posted by Arrigle:

Landers is a 4, Deise Og. But thanks anyway.

Surely to jaysus someone knows of a no. 2 keeper... It keeping me awake of nights. Surely someone saw a Junior B camogie goalie in Longford acting in said fashion, sometime or another...

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Well, we did have a lad who played in goals for a few matches at Under 12, he was a No. 2, ended up playing centre forward till minor and then..................then he want of the rails a "bit". Maybe thats why we havent heard of any No 2 goalies!!

posted 19 September 2002 02:51 PM         

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Originally posted by DEISE OG:
Well, we did have a lad who played in goals for a few matches at Under 12, he was a No. 2, ended up playing centre forward till minor and then..................then he want of the rails a "bit". Maybe thats why we havent heard of any No 2 goalies!!

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So that's it...!

posted 19 September 2002 02:53 PM         

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Originally posted by Goodchristian:
We'll have to get into more of these "pure hurling" topics. They are the only topics where we can fill two pages without a word from some asrehole like top cat or cats no 1.

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You spoke too soon, my bould garsoon, for there came...

posted 19 September 2002 02:57 PM         

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Any more thoughts? What would people consider the finest penalty they ever saw struck? B]

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posted 19 September 2002 03:05 PM         

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Originally posted by Arrigle:

PMT, Mark Foley must be older than I thought. Or, else, fierce young young when playing in that match. How old iss Foley, any road?

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posted 19 September 2002 03:11 PM         

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Originally posted by DEISE OG:
Paul Flynn versus Clare in '98 Munster Final. Bullet into the top corner. Cracker.

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Better again because it was a 21 yard free into a packed goal - not a penalty.

posted 19 September 2002 03:18 PM         

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Originally posted by sid wallace:
Are you mixing the Limerick Mark Foley up with the Cork Mark Foley. The "donkey" that scored 2-7 in a Munster Final. From play.

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Yes he is...

Mark Foley of Limerick would only have been around 9 years old back in 1984.

posted 19 September 2002 03:29 PM         

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Originally posted by GUNTHER:

Yes he is...

Mark Foley of Limerick would only have been around 9 years old back in 1984.

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Yes, I thougth the great no. 7 couldn't be the lad in question. I'd forgotten about the 6'5" man. Then again, most people, like John Kennedy, do try to forget him...

Cheers.

posted 19 September 2002 04:39 PM         

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Originally posted by Arrigle:

Landers is a 4, Deise Og. But thanks anyway.

Surely to jaysus someone knows of a no. 2 keeper... It keeping me awake of nights. Surely someone saw a Junior B camogie goalie in Longford acting in said fashion, sometime or another...

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i tink our senior goalie is a number 2.not sure

posted 19 September 2002 04:39 PM         

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Originally posted by Arrigle:

Landers is a 4, Deise Og. But thanks anyway.

Surely to jaysus someone knows of a no. 2 keeper... It keeping me awake of nights. Surely someone saw a Junior B camogie goalie in Longford acting in said fashion, sometime or another...

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i tink our senior goalie is a number 2.not sure.

posted 19 September 2002 04:46 PM         

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Originally posted by youngshea:
i tink our senior goalie is a number 2.not sure.

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posted 19 September 2002 04:48 PM         

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Originally posted by Arrigle:

Landers is a 4, Deise Og. But thanks anyway.

Surely to jaysus someone knows of a no. 2 keeper... It keeping me awake of nights. Surely someone saw a Junior B camogie goalie in Longford acting in said fashion, sometime or another...

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Our Goalie is a number 2-and a damn good one at that!!

posted 19 September 2002 05:06 PM         

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Originally posted by Glenomra Park:
Our Goalie is a number 2-and a damn good one at that!

[This message has been edited by Glenomra Park (edited 19 September 2002).]

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posted 19 September 2002 05:43 PM         

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Hurray! Thank you, GP. What's his name (and the club)?

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Was the fat antrim keeper patterson a number 2?

How about Ken Hogan?

posted 19 September 2002 05:52 PM         

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Originally posted by sid wallace:
Are you mixing the Limerick Mark Foley up with the Cork Mark Foley. The "donkey" that scored 2-7 in a Munster Final. From play.

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Yep, tis the Cork Mark Foley I was referring too. He was as big as a minor as when he played senior. Went on to study dentistry in Cork. Foley and John Herbert of UCD (Turlough Herbert's older brother) used to bate the sugar out of each other (well, no, Herbert used to bate Foley black and blue) in the Fitzgibbon for few years in the late eighties.

posted 19 September 2002 05:59 PM         

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Originally posted by Goodchristian:
If I was able to take a penalty, I'd first look for the weak spot in the wall - ie a gap between the players where either none or one hurley is pointed. Try to take one or two steps forward, then flake it at the gap at shoulder height.

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That's a good one. I would stand with bas to my right. If I stood to the right of a guy with the bas to his left, it would mean there would be a split second lost getting the hurleys round to cover a shot between us. A further plus would be both would put each other off going for the same ball.

I suppose a goalie should ensure that the man to his left holds left and the guy to his right holds right (to cover the posts) and the goalie holds the centre either side of the two defenders. For that the goalie should point his hurley straight in front of himself to be able to choose either side.

posted 19 September 2002 06:21 PM         

I see we have moved to another set of East Limerick hard men that I played against. John and Kevin Herbert were two dangerous men on a hurling field.

posted 19 September 2002 06:25 PM         

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Originally posted by Ciaran Careys Hurling Arm:
At club level, aim the penalty for the heads.

I see we have moved to another set of East Limerick hard men that I played against. John and Kevin Herbert were two dangerous men on a hurling field.

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Didn't know Kevin, there was Diarmuid and Gearoid as well. Turlough was the best of the brothers. Hard men alright. I marked both of them and they both bate the sugar out of me. I still owe John a good thump. Dirty fecker off the ball. Still, off the field he wasn't such a bad fella.

posted 19 September 2002 10:58 PM         

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So that's it...!

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Wasn't Martin Coleman on the Cork 3 in a row a 2. There was also a guy called Humphrey Kellegher from Abbeyside in the 70s who played a few challenges for Waterford.
I could be wrong but I think Stephen Greene from Mount Sion fell into this category, though he didn't go back into goal until his later years.

posted 20 September 2002 02:34 AM         

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Originally posted by SHANNONSIDER*:
Arrigle,
I believe Patrick Kirby goes to St.Colman's college in Fermoy.

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So Colman's have Shaughnessy and Kirby playing in next years Harty team?! Sure you might as well give them the cup now.

posted 20 September 2002 09:32 AM         

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Hurray! Thank you, GP. What's his name (and the club)?

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Club: Broadford (the finest establishment in the West of Ireland)

Goalie: Ollie Marsh-a red head with a fiery temper and a savage eye for the ball. Has kept us in many a match.

Ye'll all here more of him and the rest of us when we become County Champions.

posted 20 September 2002 09:42 AM         

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Originally posted by Paddy Mac's Tractor:
So Colman's have Shaughnessy and Kirby playing in next years Harty team?! Sure you might as well give them the cup now.

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posted 20 September 2002 10:28 AM         

I'm RHOT & strike from the left (No. 2), but on those rare occasions where I do actually manage to connect properly from my right side I strike the ball much better ... if that makes sense !!

And though I'm right handed, to make matters worse, I'm left footed but the same again applies, when I do actually connect properly with my right foot it's a better strike, but agin thats a rarity !!

posted 20 September 2002 10:30 AM         

I'm RHOT & strike from the left (No. 2), but on those rare occasions where I do actually manage to connect properly from my right side I strike the ball much better ... if that makes sense !!

And though I'm right handed, to make matters worse, I'm left footed but the same again applies, when I do actually connect properly with my right foot it's a better strike, but agin thats a rarity !!

posted 20 September 2002 05:14 PM         

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Originally posted by Premier24:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Paddy Mac's Tractor:
[b] So Colman's have Shaughnessy and Kirby playing in next years Harty team?! Sure you might as well give them the cup now.

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posted 20 September 2002 05:21 PM         

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Originally posted by SHANNONSIDER*:
Whats the news from the camp youngshea, will Tommy keep going?
Whats going to happen next year? New senior manager? How many teams will be entered? 3 or 4 adult teams? Haven't been up to there in weeks, you workin up there much?

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everything is up in the air at the moment. there is no obvious replacement for tommy.with the candidates either too old,too young wit no experience or inclined to lose the head in a match.

posted 20 September 2002 07:01 PM         

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Originally posted by LimerickNomad:
I like the look of both Kirby and Shaughs,
more so than Mark Keane at the moment!

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