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maiguesider Senior Member Posts: 657 From: Registered: Sep 2001	posted 12 September 2002 02:39 PM LADS ARE THE CIOTOGs UNFAIRLY CHASTISED BY THE PURISTS IP: Logged
Tomas De Burca Senior Member Posts: 675 From:Clare Registered: May 2000	posted 12 September 2002 02:46 PM quote: Originally posted by maiguesider: LADS ARE THE CIOTOGs UNFAIRLY CHASTISED BY THE PURISTS Jaysus, dont tell me Joe Duffy has taken up hurling. What other "purist" is there? IP: Logged
DEISE OG Senior Member Posts: 256 From: Registered: Nov 2000	posted 12 September 2002 03:12 PM quote: Originally posted by maiguesider: LADS ARE THE CIOTOGs UNFAIRLY CHASTISED BY THE PURISTS Who says its wrong to be left handed?? IP: Logged
Arrigle Senior Member Posts: 155 From:St Moling's Cave, Co. Kilkenny Registered: Aug 2002	posted 12 September 2002 03:26 PM quote: Originally posted by maiguesider: LADS ARE THE CIOTOGs UNFAIRLY CHASTISED BY THE PURISTS Great topic. But which do you mean, MS, lefthandders like Paul Kelly or leftthanders like Lar Corbett? It'd be a big distinction. From what I've seen, there are six ways fellas hurl: 1. Right hand on top, right-oriented (that is to say, they'd take a free or a sideline cut off their right): the great majority of lads. 2. RHOT, left-orientated: Paul Codd, Richie Mullally, Eamon Kennedy, Paul O'Grady, Niall Gilligan, Alan Markham. 3. LHOT, left-oriented: Declan Ryan, Ger Henderson, Pat Hartnett, Jimmy Doyle, Paul Kelly, Clem Smith. 4. LHOT, right-oriented: Joe Cooney, J. J. Delaney, Brendan Lynskey, Lar Corbett, Brendan Cummins, Brendan Landers. 5. RHOT to gather, LHOT to strike: Gary Kirby, Kevin Hennessy, Barry Foley. 6. LHOT to gather, RHOT to strike: don't remember seeing any prominent intercounty hurler work this way . Michael 'Titch' Phelan used do it as an underage hurler in Kilkenny, but was obviously got out of it with coaching. There may be a 7th category for Gerry McInerney, though I don't know what you'd term it... IP: Logged
Kinvara's Passion Senior Member Posts: 357 From:Funchin Burren....... Registered: Oct 2001	posted 12 September 2002 03:34 PM quote: Originally posted by Arrigle: There may be a 7th category for Gerry McInerney, though I don't know what you'd term it... Right Shovel on Top, unpredictably oriented... IP: Logged
On the border Senior Member Posts: 805 From:West Tipp Registered: Apr 2001	posted 12 September 2002 03:34 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: Who says its wrong to be left handed?? I'm ciotog, but when I was in primary school the dic.kwad of a teacher I had tried to make me hold the thing right hand on top...it didn't work... IP: Logged
DEISE OG Senior Member Posts: 256 From: Registered: Nov 2000	posted 12 September 2002 03:41 PM Always thught that numbers 1&3 of the above were the natural way to hurl and you get the most out of your strike when hurling this way. Number 6 is certainly for the junior hurler. Number 5: awkward and you lose a split second. The rest are all practical, but your sort of cutting across your body and lose the full scope of your swing. But then you have a shorter swing and its harder to hook and block!!! jaysuuus im confusing meself i'll have to think about this. Interesting topic though. IP: Logged
sid wallace Senior Member Posts: 473 From:the room at the top of the stairs Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12 September 2002 03:47 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: Always thught that numbers 1&3 of the above were the natural way to hurl and you get the most out of your strike when hurling this way. Number 6 is certainly for the junior hurler. Number 5: awkward and you lose a split second. The rest are all practical, but your sort of cutting across your body and lose the full scope of your swing. But then you have a shorter swing and its harder to hook and block!!! jaysuuus im confusing meself i'll have to think about this. Interesting topic though. I'm a number 4 myself. Definitely meant shorter clearances but also meant you could get a great bend on a ball and put a point over from the proverbial impossible angle. You could but thats not to say that I ever did. IP: Logged
Premier24 Senior Member Posts: 162 From:Tipp Registered: May 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:02 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: Always thught that numbers 1&3 of the above were the natural way to hurl and you get the most out of your strike when hurling this way. Number 6 is certainly for the junior hurler. Number 5: awkward and you lose a split second. The rest are all practical, but your sort of cutting across your body and lose the full scope of your swing. But then you have a shorter swing and its harder to hook and block!!! jaysuuus im confusing meself i'll have to think about this. Interesting topic though. I'm of the No.4 variety. My uncle gave years trying to convert me to right hand on top without much luck. I've tried it but its just not comfortable. He claimed it was the reason I never got called for trials as a young fella(methinks there was more to it than just that).... IP: Logged
Grin & Bury It !!! Senior Member Posts: 100 From:The Banner County Registered: May 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:17 PM I'd be a no.2 myself & found that it gave me a distinct advantage when I was younger in that I was comfartbly able to strike off both sides alot better than most of the lads I played withat that time. Maybe thats complete ar$e but I felt it definately gave me an advantage. The vast majority of hurlers would be a no.1 IP: Logged
On the border Senior Member Posts: 805 From:West Tipp Registered: Apr 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:18 PM quote: Originally posted by sid wallace: I'm a number 4 myself. Definitely meant shorter clearances but also meant you could get a great bend on a ball and put a point over from the proverbial impossible angle. You could but thats not to say that I ever did. I'm the same....the ball will bend from left to right... In reply to Deise og...no's 5 & 6 are the same in the way that you catch the ball with your "good" hand and then have to get that hand on the top of your stick to strike the ball.. IP: Logged
sid wallace Senior Member Posts: 473 From:the room at the top of the stairs Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:21 PM quote: Originally posted by On the border: I'm the same....the ball will bend from left to right... That's the one - and it can get really pronounced on line balls. You could seriously terrorise a defence with a line ball from 30 yards in cos they could never judge the swing. IP: Logged
LimerickNomad Senior Member Posts: 490 From:Athenry (via Cappamore) or limericknomad at hotmail dot com Registered: Jun 2002	posted 12 September 2002 04:23 PM What the hell is this, the Left-Handed-Right-Sided Masons Clan Society Association ? I'm a no. 4 too! What I don't understand is how someone who is not left handed can play golf with the left hand on top? I couldn't possibly play golf with the right hand on top. Why can't/don't right handers play golf with the right hand on top? Saying that, it's not something I've given much thought to. IP: Logged
Premier24 Senior Member Posts: 162 From:Tipp Registered: May 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:25 PM quote: Originally posted by LimerickNomad: What the hell is this, the Left-Handed-Right-Sided Masons Clan Society Association ? I'm a no. 4 too! What I don't understand is how someone who is not left handed can play golf with the left hand on top? I couldn't possibly play golf with the right hand on top. Why can't/don't right handers play golf with the right hand on top? Saying that, it's not something I've given much thought to. I know a county huler who plays golf with the right hand on top but has to swing from his left hand side...now I'm confusing things IP: Logged
DEISE OG Senior Member Posts: 256 From: Registered: Nov 2000	posted 12 September 2002 04:25 PM quote: Originally posted by On the border: In reply to Deise og...no's 5 & 6 are the same in the way that you catch the ball with your "good" hand and then have to get that hand on the top of your stick to strike the ball..[/B] True, OTB. An oversight on my part. I hate that style. Its just damn wrong!!! IP: Logged
Kinvara's Passion Senior Member Posts: 357 From:Funchin Burren....... Registered: Oct 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:28 PM Id definitly be a no 2.... It was coached to me at U10 level and I havnt changed since... Begs the question and I know each guy has his own style but is there a standard "best" way for hitting the ball, I see guys like Richie Murray from Galway who get great yardage with seemingly little effort while other guys would burn no end of calories going the same distance... IP: Logged
On the border Senior Member Posts: 805 From:West Tipp Registered: Apr 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:33 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: True, OTB. An oversight on my part. I hate that style. Its just damn wrong!!! so do I....I dunno how fellas get away with it at the top level...plus it can't be that hard to teach them to catch a ball with their bad hand.... IP: Logged
sid wallace Senior Member Posts: 473 From:the room at the top of the stairs Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:45 PM quote: Originally posted by On the border: so do I....I dunno how fellas get away with it at the top level...plus it can't be that hard to teach them to catch a ball with their bad hand.... The great advantage with being a number 4 or indeed a 2 is that you catch a ball with your good hand. IP: Logged
LimerickNomad Senior Member Posts: 490 From:Athenry (via Cappamore) or limericknomad at hotmail dot com Registered: Jun 2002	posted 12 September 2002 04:52 PM quote: Originally posted by sid wallace: The great advantage with being a number 4 or indeed a 2 is that you catch a ball with your good hand. How can that be the case if you're naturally left handed i.e. me? IP: Logged
DEISE OG Senior Member Posts: 256 From: Registered: Nov 2000	posted 12 September 2002 04:52 PM quote: Originally posted by sid wallace: The great advantage with being a number 4 or indeed a 2 is that you catch a ball with your good hand. Hold on now... Which would you be considering your good hand?? IP: Logged
On the border Senior Member Posts: 805 From:West Tipp Registered: Apr 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:58 PM quote: Originally posted by LimerickNomad: How can that be the case if you're naturally left handed i.e. me? LN is right...all categories bar 5 & 6 will collect the ball with their "bad" hand...assuming that the put their "good" hand on the top of their stick.... IP: Logged
The Blues Senior Member Posts: 1103 From:Dubh Linn (via Carlow) nagormai@yahoo.com Registered: Jan 2001	posted 12 September 2002 04:58 PM I'd be a fairly typical No.1 But what about when trying to double on a ball in the air? I definitely change to left on top then. I find I can follow through on the ball alot better. Then again, trying to classify a style for me doubling on the ball in the air is a contradiction in terms IP: Logged
DEISE OG Senior Member Posts: 256 From: Registered: Nov 2000	posted 12 September 2002 05:03 PM quote: Originally posted by The Blues: I'd be a fairly typical No.1 *Then again, trying to classify a style* for me doubling on the ball in the air is a contradiction in terms The term you're looking for Blues is: Fresh Air** IP: Logged
The Blues Senior Member Posts: 1103 From:Dubh Linn (via Carlow) nagormai@yahoo.com Registered: Jan 2001	posted 12 September 2002 05:06 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: The term you're looking for Blues is: [b]Fresh Air [/B] No Deise Og, I almost always make contact with my the other persons hurl (after he's batted the ball, I hasten to add ) IP: Logged
sid wallace Senior Member Posts: 473 From:the room at the top of the stairs Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12 September 2002 05:08 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: Hold on now... Which would you be considering your good hand?? I'm naturally right handed and favour the right side while striking, but I strike with the left hand on top. Oh Jaysus, don't tell me I'm a number 7. IP: Logged
DEISE OG Senior Member Posts: 256 From: Registered: Nov 2000	posted 12 September 2002 05:17 PM quote: Originally posted by sid wallace: I'm naturally right handed and favour the right side while striking, but I strike with the left hand on top. Oh Jaysus, don't tell me I'm a number 7. Jaysus, what happened your class in Mount Sion CBS? Id say your a 5. IP: Logged
sid wallace Senior Member Posts: 473 From:the room at the top of the stairs Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12 September 2002 05:20 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: Jaysus, what happened your class in Mount Sion CBS? Id say your a 5. definitely not a 5 I don't switch hands. The rot had set in before Brother Griffey got a chance to correct me IP: Logged
DEISE OG Senior Member Posts: 256 From: Registered: Nov 2000	posted 12 September 2002 05:28 PM quote: Originally posted by sid wallace: definitely not a 5 I don't switch hands. The rot had set in before Brother Griffey got a chance to correct me The legend Ned Power taught all of us and if you hadn't noticed: we're all perfect Number 1's. IP: Logged
sid wallace Senior Member Posts: 473 From:the room at the top of the stairs Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12 September 2002 05:40 PM quote: Originally posted by DEISE OG: The legend Ned Power taught all of us and if you hadn't noticed: we're all perfect Number 1's. Ah sure for all our flaws we haven't done too badly ourselves. IP: Logged
dell boy Senior Member Posts: 239 From:ennis Registered: Mar 2000	posted 12 September 2002 05:42 PM I catch with my left while holding down a bit on the right. When hitting i bring my left back to the top. It makes difficult on my left side. They tried to coach me out of it but too uncomfortable. What category am I in?! What category is Joe Deane in? IP: Logged
sid wallace Senior Member Posts: 473 From:the room at the top of the stairs Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12 September 2002 05:50 PM quote: Originally posted by dell boy: I catch with my left while holding down a bit on the right. When hitting i bring my left back to the top. It makes difficult on my left side. They tried to coach me out of it but too uncomfortable. What category am I in?! What category is Joe Deane in? I'd say you're a 22 or maybe a 46A. Definitely headed southside anyway. IP: Logged
youngshea Senior Member Posts: 76 From:d'big smoke,formally clonoulty county tipp Registered: Jul 2002	posted 12 September 2002 10:00 PM i'd be a number 4. some older members in the clubs have given off to me about "catching the hurley wrong" but i tried RHOT and it feels too awkard. didnt know there was so many no. 4's. Whers SS* these days? IP: Logged
Arrigle Senior Member Posts: 155 From:St Moling's Cave, Co. Kilkenny Registered: Aug 2002	posted 13 September 2002 12:16 AM quote: Originally posted by sid wallace: I'm naturally right handed and favour the right side while striking, but I strike with the left hand on top. Oh Jaysus, don't tell me I'm a number 7. No, Sid, you're no. 4. I'm glad ye've knocked such craic out of my categories! IP: Logged
Gladiator Senior Member Posts: 394 From:Cork via Aghaviller Registered: Feb 2002	posted 13 September 2002 01:34 AM I hurl with my right hand on top but play golf with my left hand on top.......is this not the norm??? IP: Logged
LimerickNomad Senior Member Posts: 490 From:Athenry (via Cappamore) or limericknomad at hotmail dot com Registered: Jun 2002	posted 13 September 2002 08:59 AM quote: Originally posted by Gladiator: I hurl with my right hand on top but play golf with my left hand on top.......is this not the norm??? That would be the norm but why? Am I unusual in "playing" hurling and golf with my left hand on top? IP: Logged
GUNTHER Senior Member Posts: 1022 From: Registered: Jun 2001	posted 13 September 2002 09:02 AM quote: Originally posted by Arrigle: Great topic. But which do you mean, MS, lefthandders like Paul Kelly or leftthanders like Lar Corbett? It'd be a big distinction. From what I've seen, there are six ways fellas hurl: 1. Right hand on top, right-oriented (that is to say, they'd take a free or a sideline cut off their right): the great majority of lads. 2. RHOT, left-orientated: Paul Codd, Richie Mullally, Eamon Kennedy, Paul O'Grady, Niall Gilligan, Alan Markham. 3. LHOT, left-oriented: Declan Ryan, Ger Henderson, Pat Hartnett, Jimmy Doyle, Paul Kelly, Clem Smith. 4. LHOT, right-oriented: Joe Cooney, J. J. Delaney, Brendan Lynskey, Lar Corbett, Brendan Cummins, Brendan Landers. 5. RHOT to gather, LHOT to strike: Gary Kirby, Kevin Hennessy, Barry Foley. 6. LHOT to gather, RHOT to strike: don't remember seeing any prominent intercounty hurler work this way . Michael 'Titch' Phelan used do it as an underage hurler in Kilkenny, but was obviously got out of it with coaching. There may be a 7th category for Gerry McInerney, though I don't know what you'd term it... David Trimble of CH.COM can use all these techniques...particularly while viewing the latest Shakira video. Isnt that right Trimble?..You big Fool. IP: Logged
Babs Keating's neighbour Senior Member Posts: 267 From:Dublin Registered: May 2000	posted 13 September 2002 09:33 AM quote: Originally posted by dell boy: I catch with my left while holding down a bit on the right. When hitting i bring my left back to the top. It makes difficult on my left side. They tried to coach me out of it but too uncomfortable. What category am I in?! What category is Joe Deane in? I'd say Joe is a Number 4 IP: Logged
Babs Keating's neighbour Senior Member Posts: 267 From:Dublin Registered: May 2000	posted 13 September 2002 09:50 AM A team of LHOTs: 1. Brendan Cummins 2. Sean O'Gorman 3. Leonard Enright 4. Martin Hanamy 5. Gerry Quinn 6. Ger Henderson 7. Gerry McInerney 8. Frank Cummins 9. Ollie Baker 10. Tim Crowley 11. Declan Ryan 12. Joe Cooney 13. Pat Fox 14. Liam Fennelly 15. Johnny Flaherty Notable absentees: Jimmy Doyle Joe Deane Pat Hartnett Paul Kelly Gerry McInerney (Clare) Tony Doran Joachim Kelly etc. IP: Logged
Glenomra Park Senior Member Posts: 314 From:The Home of Hurling i.e.Broadford Registered: Jun 2002	posted 13 September 2002 09:55 AM quote: Originally posted by Babs Keating's neighbour: A team of LHOTs: 1. Brendan Cummins 2. Sean O'Gorman 3. Leonard Enright 4. Martin Hanamy 5. Gerry Quinn 6. Ger Henderson 7. Gerry McInerney 8. Frank Cummins 9. Ollie Baker 10. Tim Crowley 11. Declan Ryan 12. Joe Cooney 13. Pat Fox 14. Liam Fennelly 15. Johnny Flaherty Notable absentees: Jimmy Doyle Joe Deane Pat Hartnett Paul Kelly Gerry McInerney (Clare) Tony Doran Joachim Kelly etc. Your also forgetting Peter Barry of Kilkenny, David Forde of Clare, Kevin Broderick of Galway, Joe Dooley of Offaly and Larry Murphy of Wexford.......just to name but a few from each county that might have made this panel!! IP: Logged
ditch man Senior Member Posts: 118 From: Registered: Feb 2001	posted 13 September 2002 12:48 PM 6. LHOT to gather, RHOT to strike: don't remember seeing any prominent intercounty hurler work this way . Michael 'Titch' Phelan used do it as an underage hurler in Kilkenny, but was obviously got out of it with coaching. Was Seanie McCarthy of Cork a no. 6? IP: Logged

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