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"Echoes" Program Transcript - "Máire Brennan - Perfect Time"

    "Echoes" Program X-30, Public Radio International (aired the week of 22 July 1998)

    Voices heard in the interview:
    JD = John Diliberto (host of "Echoes")
    KH = Kimberly Haas (interviewer)
    MB = Máire Brennan
    DW = Denis Woods

    JD: You're hearing Echoes and I'm John Diliberto. We all know the voice of Maire Brennan from the Irish band Clannad, singing traditional Irish tunes and stacking her voice in those gorgeous choirs like "Theme From Harry's Game". Maire has just put out her third solo album, and it's an unadulterated Christian recording released on the Word label, which specializes in Christian pop. We visited Maire in Ireland where she talked about her new music and new-found faith. Kimberly Haas brings us Maire Brennan's Celtic Christianity.

    (sounds of footsteps walking outside)

    KH: Walking along the pier just across the street from her home south of Dublin, Ireland, singer Maire Brennan, from the group Clannad, soaks up the quiet ambience of sailboats, ferries, and the breeze blowing through the harbor. It reminds her of growing up in County Donegal.

    MB: Beautiful. I mean, where I grew up in County Donegal, is uh, the mountains are behind me, there're hardly any other houses around, and in the distance, you know, you can see the sea and the dotted little islands, and there it's really, it's really beautiful.

    (loud sound of the Irish ferry horn sounds)

    MB: Oh! There she blows! Ah, there you go...live from Dun Laoghaire.

    KH: I could get all poetic and say this is where Maire Brennan comes for her inspiration, but lately she's found a different source. Although she doesn't like the expression, Maire has become a born again Christian, and it's this faith that informs her latest album, "Perfect Time".

    (music from the song "The Big Rock" plays)

    As the eldest child of nine in the Brennan family, Maire Brennan, like most good children of County Donegal, was born and raised Catholic.

    MB: The way my parents brought us up, and we, we were all brought up the same way, emm, and, you know, when any of us are at home we always go to church with my mum and dad, you know, and sing in the choirs. Emm, but I suppose in the way that I've followed it on and, uh, practicing as, as a Christian, it's, there're, there are no members of the family that do it.

    KH: Maire says she became a Christian about eight years ago. Despite her apparent success with Clannad, she felt an emptiness in her life. Back in her studio, just across the harbor, she wrote about those feelings and broken dreams on the hymn-like title track to her album "Perfect Time".

    MB: Well, it's just all the, the to do with just being on the road, rock n' roll, social life. Uh, you know, I suppose being out there in that mad world drinking too much or, you know, uh, I mean, having blurred feelings about things or past love affairs or anything like that. But it's being released from broken dreams, as well the dreams that you thought you needed and you don't.

    (music from the song "Perfect Time" plays)

    KH: Maire Brennan practices a charismatic brand of Christianity. She attends St. Mark's Church in Dublin where you might hear her sing a hymn like this...

    (Maire sings a church hymn in Gaelic unaccompanied)

    Many of the songs on "Perfect Time" are like hymns, but a few transcend their Christian lyrics, to espouse universal themes like "Na Paisti" ("The Children") which is partly about her own two children with photographer and husband, Tim Jarvis.

    MB: You know the honesty that kids have. You know when they're not afraid to say somethin' that says "But YOU said...." Yeah. Why do we hide so much when kids are always straight about what's black and white, basically? And, and that side of the purity of the kids--they're wonderful t', to learn from in that way.

    (music from "Na Paisti" plays)

    KH: "Na Paisti", like many of the songs on "Perfect Time", rings with the choral harmonies and Gaelic tongue that have become a trademark of Clannad since "Theme from Harry's Game".

    DW: One of the amazing features about her voice is that when you do double track it up like that, it sounds infinitely bigger.

    KH: Denis Woods produced "Perfect Time" as well as a pair of recent Clannad albums.

    DW: She has a very kind of haunting vibrato in her voice that when, when it's multi-tracked, it sounds absolutely amazing.

    (music from "Perfect Time" plays)

    KH: For one piece, "Song of David", Maire Brennan returned to her ancestral home in Donegal to record with the church choir, directed by her mother.

    MB: While I was singing it, I thought "I could do my part in the studio so I won't worry too much". But when we got back into the studio, and Denis said "listen to this", and I heard, I was so relaxed and I was just enjoying it so much, and I was enjoying singing with my mum's choir and everything. It just all fitted together. It was extraordinary. It was lovely.

    (music plays from "Song of David")

    KH: Although we celebrate the exotic religions of the East, bow down to the preachings of Native Americans, and swoon to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's Qawwali wail, Christian music has never garnered much excitement with those not already in the choir.

    MB: If, if I was to say to you "Look, I'm into Hindu" or "I'm into Buddha", and you'd be looking at me and saying "That's amazing" and "Where'd you get this?" You know, I mean, you're nearly allowed to do that because you think it's more exotic or something. Where Christianity's kinda got a, maybe, boring tag attached to it. But it's, believe it or not, it's as, as incredible, if not more so, than, you know, any religion that you'd ever come across.

    KH: In a world of music in which Qawwali hymns, Islamic prayers, and Tibetan chants are a norm, Maire Brennan adds a new wrinkle, with ancient Celtic roots, to the spiritual music ferment. Her latest album is "Perfect Time", on the Word label. For Echoes, I'm Kimberly Haas.

    (the entire song "Perfect Time" is played)

    (Copyright 1998 - Echoes and Public Radio International)

    (
    Updated January 26, 1999 - Several corrections to original transcript sent in by an anonymous reader. The transcript should now be more complete.)


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