Torpedoes, Gunsights, and the CV
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Last update - 16 February 1999
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bod posted 02-13-99 05:17 AM ET (US)        

Flew with Ju88 and torps in HA last night trying to sink the cv. I sunk to ships but didn't once hit what i was aiming for: the cv.

The problem is the aiming. I come in 90 degree right/left side and get the cv offset at some angle and drop the torps when they start shooting, but i really have no idea where on the windscreen it should be. Does anybody have a aiming recipe that consistently hits (when flying the Ju88) ??

Vertigo posted 02-13-99 12:00 PM ET (US)            

Bod,

One of our bombers, Phenix, has created a Ju88 torpedo gunsight which helps a lot. You can see and download it from

www.rhinobytes.com/haze/torpedo.html

Just promise you won't use it against the Purple fleet

Vertigo (-vert-)

bod posted 02-13-99 03:49 PM ET (US)            

Thanks a lot. I can promise you that i wont use it against the purple fleet since i'm flying for The Wild Vikings, which is purp of cource (what other colors are there, i mean COLORS :-)

Bod TVW

ccasey posted 02-13-99 06:51 PM ET (US)            

Ok, if you want to hit the CV easyer, don't attack it on its broad side. when I normally torp things I try to attack at a 45' or 0' angles from it. Also, I do not drop until the last possible second to pull out and make it over the CV's deck. This works in any torp carring plane, this also I bomb them, but with bombs I go in with WEP on.

<=ccasey=>

Toad posted 02-14-99 11:19 AM ET (US)            

Ok, if you want to hit the CV easyer, don't attack it on its broad side. when I normally torp things I try to attack at a 45' or 0' angles from it. Also, I do not drop until the last possible second to pull out and make it over the CV's deck. This works in any torp carring plane, this also I bomb them, but with bombs I go in with WEP on.

???

I've never survived a torpedo attack where more than one escort was shooting at me. I can't conceive of an attack where you drop at the last second and pull up "over" the target ship!

Sorry, just can't believe it.

My only attack method that worked was to drop just before (or just as) the nearest escort opened up .. and then whip her around and get the hell outta Dodge at full throttle, jinking all the way (and with tracer all around me for a while too).

And I'm pretty doggon good at torpedo attacks too. Even without that nifty Ju torp sight (which I now have installed on everything).

Toad, Torpedo Toad

idri posted 02-14-99 03:11 PM ET (US)            

Here's a torpedo aiming sight you can use for hi res. You can add these lines to your current gun sight file or create 3 new ones so the torpedo aiming points will not be visible in most of your cockpit art. The specific files to create are:

F6F53.gst

Ju88a3.gst

IJNdef3.gst

Copy the gun sight file you are currently using to the F6F53.gst file and then add these lines:

280,-20,280,-40

-280,-20,-280,-40

320,-20,320,-40

-320,-20,-320,-40

Increase the first line of the .gst file by 4. Then copy that file to the other 2 files.

I subscribe to the 90 degree angle attack. By waiting to launch the torpedo until the CV fills the space between the aiming points you will have a high probability of a hit. Also, by using these points to time your torpedo launch, you will have time to reverse your course before the aaa opens up on you, increasing your likelyhood of surviving the attack.

G'luck,

idri

ccasey posted 02-14-99 04:00 PM ET (US)            

Toad.. I left out one detail... I normally dont make it back home... lol... The escorts nail me while leaving. Its hard to explain my approch but it works... but its nothing close to a striaght line... The escorts are not the problem. Its the cons flying over the CV that hurt most. See when torpedoing or bombing, I my first goal is to drop the payload on target, then I start worrying about making back to base.

<=ccasey=>

NO SHIP IS SAFE cvkilr posted 02-15-99 10:09 PM ET (US)            

torpedo bombing is fun as hell, has always been fun for me. Your sights are cool but i prefer the built in sights like the ju88 window screen with the little latch doohicky to the left i get about a 90% hit ratio on all three torp planes (oh right there are four now) using cockpit window references on attack at certain angles. anyways, i would love to do an attack with you guys sometime. incidently i did two passes on a lone gold cv last night, i watched all four torps hit but as it was like last year when 2.5 first came out, my torps still are not scoring on my score page as hits. anyone else have this problem? i did it with ju88

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