Behold the nineteenth! Daa dada da da da(drumroll)

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Murt Goggins Member Posts: 24 From: Registered: Apr 2002	posted 07 May 2002 03:58 PM Posted this under a GPA headin and got no response. Is it coz i is blick?? anyway, Boys, The sun is out and the nineteenth isnt far away at all. Am I on my own when I say I sht me-self while watching the league final last Sunday? Lads from what Ive seen this year we're light years away from Kilkenny and Cork, whatever about Tipp. The closer it gets the more worried I get. Usually around this time you hear a story like "Jesus their trainin at half three in the mornin'" or Cyril has 'em on crack cocaine". But worryingly not this year lads. All I hear and see is Jamsie on about the GPA and sweet fckall about the 19th. Is it not a worryin sign for ye? To be honest I think we'll be well bet' on the nineteenth and I dont want to hear about me and my pesimism and all that bulsh!t coz Im only stating what I think. Id love to see them do it and of course they'll be a hundred times better than vs Limerick in the league but will mentality beat this Tipp team??? I think not. I was just sayin to a lad yesterday that the worse thing that could happen would be to put up a reasonable/mediocre display and be only beaten by four or five. Then you'd have self approval and false dawns. And to tell you the truth I dont give two jugs o' rats p!ss about the back door. Twelve or thirteen thousand in Ballinasloe or somewhere is an insult to the craic we had in the halycon days!!Its Limerick and Clare in the sunshine in Thurles I want. The build up of the decade! Aaaaaauugh alas 'tis but a dream. IP: Logged
beagle Senior Member Posts: 228 From:BAYERN Registered: May 2001	posted 07 May 2002 04:04 PM quote: Originally posted by Murt Goggins: Posted this under a GPA headin and got no response. Is it coz i is blick?? anyway, Boys, The sun is out and the nineteenth isnt far away at all. Am I on my own when I say I sht me-self while watching the league final last Sunday? Lads from what Ive seen this year we're light years away from Kilkenny and Cork, whatever about Tipp. The closer it gets the more worried I get. Usually around this time you hear a story like "Jesus their trainin at half three in the mornin'" or Cyril has 'em on crack cocaine". But worryingly not this year lads. All I hear and see is Jamsie on about the GPA and sweet fckall about the 19th. Is it not a worryin sign for ye? To be honest I think we'll be well bet' on the nineteenth and I dont want to hear about me and my pesimism and all that bulsh!t coz Im only stating what I think. Id love to see them do it and of course they'll be a hundred times better than vs Limerick in the league but will mentality beat this Tipp team??? I think not. I was just sayin to a lad yesterday that the worse thing that could happen would be to put up a reasonable/mediocre display and be only beaten by four or five. Then you'd have self approval and false dawns. And to tell you the truth I dont give two jugs o' rats p!ss about the back door. Twelve or thirteen thousand in Ballinasloe or somewhere is an insult to the craic we had in the halycon days!!Its Limerick and Clare in the sunshine in Thurles I want. The build up of the decade! Aaaaaauugh alas 'tis but a dream. Hey murt, you sure talk a lot of sense! IP: Logged
Murt Goggins Member Posts: 24 From: Registered: Apr 2002	posted 10 May 2002 12:44 PM I just wanted to see what people felt the chances were now as its gettin closer smartarse. IP: Logged
beagle Senior Member Posts: 228 From:BAYERN Registered: May 2001	posted 10 May 2002 12:48 PM quote: Originally posted by Murt Goggins: I just wanted to see what people felt the chances were now as its gettin closer smartarse. AND I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU FCUKHEAD.. IP: Logged
SaffronBlue Senior Member Posts: 720 From:East Clare Registered: Apr 2000	posted 10 May 2002 12:52 PM quote: Originally posted by Murt Goggins: I just wanted to see what people felt the chances were now as its gettin closer smartarse. The chances are not good. IP: Logged
hay.saved.cork.bet Member Posts: 25 From:ExileInBigSmoke Registered: Sep 2001	posted 10 May 2002 12:57 PM ah yeah tis a long way to cork, & for what? a beatin? go way ou' a dat murt I discern a fierce confidence behind all that oul guff. Are you Ger in disguise Murt? Cos Tipp cant be frightening you with what ive seen of em. IP: Logged
IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1150 From:shannon,clare,ireland Registered: May 2001	posted 10 May 2002 01:04 PM Tipps injury list is growing (see todays indo) I expect an almighty effort from Clare and it looks as if it's going toi be a lot closer then expected. Wheter this is good or bad news for Clare only time will tell. IP: Logged
clare fan Senior Member Posts: 834 From:dublin (via ennis), clarefan2002@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2000	posted 10 May 2002 01:10 PM Clare are truly fcuked. What with Brian Lohan having blazing rows with Louis Mulqueen, Jamesie and Seanie not enjoying their sport anymore because of the lunatic training and the sheer banality of the talent coming forward, we will do well to hang in for 20 minutes against Tipp. And if by some Knock-type miracle and if all of Tipp's players get injured, we will be found out by the Shannonsiders. Its only Willie Clancy week this year lads. quote: Originally posted by IRON MIKE: Tipps injury list is growing (see todays indo) I expect an almighty effort from Clare and it looks as if it's going toi be a lot closer then expected. Wheter this is good or bad news for Clare only time will tell. IP: Logged
Murt Goggins Member Posts: 24 From: Registered: Apr 2002	posted 10 May 2002 01:18 PM Apologies Beagle, I thought I hinted a note of sarcasm. Hay saved Cork bet, No Im not Ger in disguise. You can sincerely ask any hurling guru up here in Clare about our chances for the 19th, and I guarantee you confidence isnt something youll find. Tipp mightnt have looked over-impressive so far, but Clare have looked dismall. I saw them three times ddring the league. Kilkenny in Cusack Park - disaster. Waterford in Cusack Park, shiockingly poor despite being up for the game, and Limerick in Thurles..need I say more?. If this had happened three years ago, I agree, alot of us would be rubbing our hands waiting for the fruits of Gers latest plan. But nowadays I honestly am quivering and I just wonder will Clare supporters really be bothered all that much if we lose. will it be a case of "We saw it coming??" I can guaratee you unless Im overly-surprised there'll be a poor enough crowd in Cork on the 19th. Can you imagine the patheticness of the following when we're in the back-door. I love championship days, Win lose or draw, I love huge crowds up on the terrace, and good expectation. Its an awful let down when youve poor support, and because of Cyril and co.'s miserable effort in the league it looks as if thats what we'll have in a fortnight. I can only imagine what the Clare footballers felt in Cork last year. I dunno if youve seen it or not, but Joe Keane wrote a smashing article in The Clare Champion last Thursday about what he thinks of the outfit so far this year and what we can expect on the 19th. It was cutting, but it spoke for what thousands of us are thinking. Maybe itll be the kick up the ho!e the boys need. I kid you not, Im not putting on a show here. I know Tipp are All-Ireland champs and they're there for the taking but sadly I feel It'll be Limerick who do it and not us. IP: Logged
beagle Senior Member Posts: 228 From:BAYERN Registered: May 2001	posted 07 May 2002 04:10 PM His article was good alright, it might be the kick in the arse the team needed. As a matter of interest, how many of the Clare lads here are going to the match? I would think the vast majority are, I'd say we will have great support and if we don't it just goes to show what a crowd of bandwagon jumpers we have in our midst, there for the good days but not for the lean times... IP: Logged
Murt Goggins Member Posts: 24 From: Registered: Apr 2002	posted 07 May 2002 04:17 PM Ill be there anyway. Hopefully Ill be wrong about the crowd. Id predict 37,000 plus. Not the 45,000 and up we had when we met three years ago. IP: Logged
IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1150 From:shannon,clare,ireland Registered: May 2001	posted 07 May 2002 04:27 PM Lads Whatever chance Clare have it will be non existent if the support doesn't travel. Case in point being the Lim/Cork game last year. Limerick still travelled in their droves. Ok there was just about 37000 there as well which is well short of the 43500 capacity but the volume of support that was there given the a: dismal league performance against Clare b: the fact that it was in the lions den and c: all the predictions of doom and gloom in the build up to the game I though the support was astonoshing. So Clare should take some heart from that. IP: Logged
SaffronBlue Senior Member Posts: 720 From:East Clare Registered: Apr 2000	posted 07 May 2002 04:30 PM quote: Originally posted by beagle: it just goes to show what a crowd of bandwagon jumpers we have in our midst, To be fair, as league attendances show, there are a hardcore of not more than 10,000 hurling fans in your average hurling county. It thus follows that of the 30,000 plus who clamour for All-Ireland tickets (if their team gets that far) more than 20,000 are bandwagon bumpers. So if there's a few less this year than other years, so what? I remember the miniscule crowd in Thurles for the Clare-Waterford Munster Championship game in '92. I'd say that was the day Clare's support bottomed out: Perhaps only the base-line 10,000 attended. Good times bring bandwagon jumpers - it's a fact of life so deal with it. If it wasn't for them big games wouldn't have the same atmosphere (they'd be like league matches) and the GAA wouldn't make as much money so bring them on I say. IP: Logged
Murt Goggins Member Posts: 24 From: Registered: Apr 2002	posted 07 May 2002 07:05 PM Ill go one better, 12,000 odd in the Gaelic Grounds Cork vs Clare 1995 (yes the year we won the All-Ireland!!!) The bandwagon sure missed one hell of a game then and yours truly got on the box when ollie the goal that nearly missed the evening news. Some day that!!One puck of a ball sent Clare to the best hurling era the county has ever seen and destined Cork for a drought only ended in 1999. Not blowing trumpets, but with respect it is since the breakthrough of Clare that attendances soared. Not because of who they wetre or anything but because now nearly every county in Munster had the possibility of a good day out. Waterford joined the parade in 98 and made up a crowd of 55,000 in the Munster Final vs Clare. Theyve brought huge crowds to matches ever since. Limerick were always mighty supporters alright. Genuine hurling people, even if theyll only have one day out theyll be at it. In 97 Tipp gave them a drubbing in Thurles but the supporters still came back for more. Clare's test will be on the nineteenth. When times are bad will we travel???Cork arent so great Im afraid. When theyre winning yes!, and youll go along way to find a more colourful terrace than a rebel one on a good day. But on a bad day???Not good Im afraid. (Limerick outnumbered them in 96 in Pairc Ui Caoimh. and 5,000 at a football league final vs Dublin at same ground three years ago!!) IP: Logged
orion Senior Member Posts: 615 From:U.S.A. Registered: Mar 2000	posted 07 May 2002 09:57 PM Some of us go back a lot further into the seventies re Clare crowds. And, I remember '81 Semi Final when we outnumbered Cork about 3-1 and this when Cork very strong favourites. So, Clare has always had very strong core support....the only problem is Cork is a long way down for a lot of genuine fans: West Clare and North Clare people in particular. It is kinda stupid not to play the game in Limerick ( or even Thurles for that matter ). A final....well and good, but a first round game??? I met Clare people at the AI in '95 who would not know a hurley if they saw one....and I remember thinking about all the genuine fans who could not get tickets. You will always get people out for a day out...if Clare get to the Munster Final you are guaranteed a big crowd. And, in fairness a lot of people have spent a good deal of money following Clare. I would rather we had the support though, no matter what. IP: Logged
GUNTHER Senior Member Posts: 815 From: Registered: Jun 2001	posted 08 May 2002 09:41 AM quote: Originally posted by orion: Some of us go back a lot further into the seventies re Clare crowds. And, I remember '81 Semi Final when we outnumbered Cork about 3-1 and this when Cork very strong favourites. So, Clare has always had very strong core support....the only problem is Cork is a long way down for a lot of genuine fans: West Clare and North Clare people in particular. It is kinda stupid not to play the game in Limerick ( or even Thurles for that matter ). A final....well and good, but a first round game??? I met Clare people at the AI in '95 who would not know a hurley if they saw one....and I remember thinking about all the genuine fans who could not get tickets. You will always get people out for a day out...if Clare get to the Munster Final you are guaranteed a big crowd. And, in fairness a lot of people have spent a good deal of money following Clare. I would rather we had the support though, no matter what. Orion... I've always suspected you a as a bulls*hitter..and now you have proved yourself. I was at that game in 1981...and no way was there a bigger Clare crowd there that day. For fcuk sake...Cork had just won the League..they were being touted as one of the best teams in Ireland(again)..and Limerick had hammered Clare the year before in the Championship..and they were expected to get hammered. It might have seemed that way because every neutral in the ground(including myself) was rooting for Clare that day. Clare DID have a huge crowd for the final...no doubt you were at that game...Joe McKenna sored 3-3 from play that day off..? Little test for you memory man...Who played Full Back for Clare that day? IP: Logged
IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1150 From:shannon,clare,ireland Registered: May 2001	posted 08 May 2002 11:10 AM I know the full back Gunther. I don't remember his club though. IP: Logged
referee is back Senior Member Posts: 1058 From: Registered: Jan 2001	posted 08 May 2002 11:35 AM Gunther, Orion has serious trouble remembering back to that time. After this is the man that thinks Jamsie OConnor is 10 times better than JBM, JBM was carried by Cork in hurling, JBM was only a converted footballer and he abandoned football to glory hunt in hurling even though he played 7 seasons football in which time he won 3 All Ireland hurling medals. I asked to name one other dual player that played 7 consecutive seasons in both codes at the level JBM did and still no reply??? I think he is waiting for Joe Considine to start some similar type run. If anyone feels I have harped on about this JBM thing feel free to say so cos they are right but any lad that comes with drivel like that gets under my skin quote: Originally posted by GUNTHER: Orion... I've always suspected you a as a bulls*hitter..and now you have proved yourself. I was at that game in 1981...and no way was there a bigger Clare crowd there that day. For fcuk sake...Cork had just won the League..they were being touted as one of the best teams in Ireland(again)..and Limerick had hammered Clare the year before in the Championship..and they were expected to get hammered. It might have seemed that way because every neutral in the ground(including myself) was rooting for Clare that day. Clare DID have a huge crowd for the final...no doubt you were at that game...Joe McKenna sored 3-3 from play that day off..? Little test for you memory man...Who played Full Back for Clare that day? IP: Logged
GUNTHER Senior Member Posts: 815 From: Registered: Jun 2001	posted 08 May 2002 12:03 PM quote: Originally posted by referee is back: Gunther, Orion has serious trouble remembering back to that time. After this is the man that thinks Jamsie OConnor is 10 times better than JBM, JBM was carried by Cork in hurling, JBM was only a converted footballer and he abandoned football to glory hunt in hurling even though he played 7 seasons football in which time he won 3 All Ireland hurling medals. I asked to name one other dual player that played 7 consecutive seasons in both codes at the level JBM did and still no reply??? I think he is waiting for Joe Considine to start some similar type run. If anyone feels I have harped on about this JBM thing feel free to say so cos they are right but any lad that comes with drivel like that gets under my skin His opinions on JBM were so laughable I did not even react. I am just sick of the bulls*hit he is spouting at this stage..which is why I reacted to his latest offering. Suffice to say that JBM was a member of the Cork team that won 3 AI in a row between 76-78...and came back to win further medals in 84 and 86. Some fcuking passenger. Orion should not be taken seriously...he is quite obviously a simpleton. IP: Logged
roadtodamascus Senior Member Posts: 44 From:Tipp Registered: Oct 2001	posted 08 May 2002 02:05 PM quote: Originally posted by Murt Goggins: Cork arent so great Im afraid. When theyre winning yes!, and youll go along way to find a more colourful terrace than a rebel one on a good day. But on a bad day???Not good Im afraid. (Limerick outnumbered them in 96 in Pairc Ui Caoimh. and 5,000 at a football league final vs Dublin at same ground three years ago!!) Credit where it's due, they must have had 80% of the crowd at the league final (neutrals included in the 20%). IP: Logged
The Blues Senior Member Posts: 791 From:Dubh Linn (via Carlow) nagormai@yahoo.com Registered: Jan 2001	posted 08 May 2002 02:22 PM quote: Originally posted by roadtodamascus: Credit where it's due, they must have had 80% of the crowd at the league final (neutrals included in the 20%). I presume your talking about the final last Sunday? If you are, you aren't too far off the mark. However, I was at the football League final down in P ui C a few years back and more than half of the measly crowd that did turn up were either Dubs or neutrals. I'd guess no more than 2000 Corkonians. The ridiculous thing was that it would have attracted over 30,000 in Croke Park and thats not a figure out of nowhere. I'm basing it on the attendance at the Dubs drawn match and replay vs Armagh that year. Ironically, there probably would have been a larger Cork turnout (exiles) had it been played in Croke Park aswell! IP: Logged
Murt Goggins Member Posts: 24 From: Registered: Apr 2002	posted 07 May 2002 05:30 PM Oooooooooooooooh Lordy! Jeeesus what happened the Minors eh? Are we that bad or does Fr. Mac and the set up need hoovering?? Maybe itll be a spur for the Seniors on Sunday week with all the dejection and talk of "Clare Hurling is dead" thatll be around come the weekend, but really Im only clutching at straws. Has anyone seen Biddy Earley around? IP: Logged

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