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Tomas De Burca Senior Member Posts: 570 |
posted 03 July 2002 09:18 PM
  
Lads, I heard from a source not a million miles from the two principals that they have had a savage falling out, hence Dummy's absence from the Last Word for the past two evenings. Apparently they fell out over the title of Keane's autobiography. Dunphy apparently wanted to use the Montenotte spelling with the ending in "ocks", but when Keane realised that the Mayfield spelling ending in "ox" would save in printing costs he issued an ultimatum to Dunphy and threatened to walk out and return home. IP: Logged |
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Nicky Brit Senior Member Posts: 128 |
posted 03 July 2002 10:08 PM
Why cant they compromise....a few suggestions 1/ Scab IP: Logged |
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orion Senior Member Posts: 820 |
posted 04 July 2002 08:18 AM
Two bigger pricxks there never were. Both overrated and overpaid, and both are now irrevelant!!! I heard Keane's car was torched in England...pity the fucxker wasn't in it. IP: Logged |
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Shannonsider's associate Member Posts: 3 |
posted 04 July 2002 08:26 AM
quote: Your only an asshole for that comment, well I suppose you can't expect more from someone who wanted Lee Carsley and David Connolly playing for Ireland in the World Cup IP: Logged |
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orion Senior Member Posts: 820 |
posted 04 July 2002 08:31 AM
You must be a retard if you think I wanted Carsley or Connolly in the squad. In fact, I railed against both of them. I would have preferred McCarthy brought Healey, O'Shea, and Delap ( even McPhail ) to the World Cup. He did bring Reid but did not play him enough. IP: Logged |
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Mairegangaire Senior Member Posts: 694 |
posted 04 July 2002 09:11 AM
quote: Orion you are a out of order, have you any shame at all? I can only assume that you've been in the states for to long and Bush's proclaimation "You're either with us or against us" has been adopted rather radically by the pr1ck (thats you) from the banner. IP: Logged |
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Up_the_bridge Senior Member Posts: 374 |
posted 04 July 2002 10:21 AM
Orion, In fairness whatever about the virtues of bringing Healey and Delap who had a few Senior caps is fair enough. Given that McCarthy tried to bring Healy in instead of Keane after the bust-up I think that he seriously had thought of bringing him. But the thought of bringing O Shea..1 senior cap, as a sub where he conceded a penalty. He played only a handful of first-team games for United last season. He was part of a defence that completely under-performed in an U21 tournament in May (granted he missed the first game). McCarthy brought 4 centre-backs, of those Andy O Brien plays week-in week-out for Newcastle Utd. The other 3 boys all played in the World Cup and in fairness acquited themselves well. So I think McCarthy was well vindicated there, do you not agree. Admitted he persisted with Harte too long when he had options. Also your point about bringing Quinn along for a free holiday was well knocked on the head given his performances. The World Cup is not some preseason tournament for trying out lads, you go with your best and a manager it was McCarthy perogative to say experience was best. /UTB.
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orion Senior Member Posts: 820 |
posted 04 July 2002 11:57 AM
The one player he should have played was Morrison. Ireland could/could have been World Cup Finalists....something I would have never thought in my lifetime and I have followed football a lot longer than anyone on this site. Morrison is quick, strong, and cocky....for the amount of possession we had in games, we did not look like scoring goals with the set up we had. Quinn could barely walk for crissakes. Duff is not a forward as he demonstrated by playing on the wing and taking teams on when played there. He is much better coming from the flanks than by being deployed as a striker. Keane had no support really. What a pity that a great opportunity was thrown away. My point about bringing some of the players was they were not going to contribute much: Carsley, Alan Kelly, Connolly, Quinn, and Cunningham were ones I mentioned. I would have preferred to bring O'Shea who impressed every time I saw him play for Utd last year...he is much quicker than O'Brien, Healy, Delap ( the Martin Peters of his time )and McPhail. Cunningham played well against Spain but by then the Spanish had given up and withdrew both Raul and Morientes. A great chance went abegging....ah well. IP: Logged |
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orion Senior Member Posts: 820 |
posted 04 July 2002 12:02 PM
Mairegangaire: Keane is a prixck for what he did to his country. You obviously have no pride in your country and also know very little about soccer in particular and sport in general to say that. Better players than Keane never got a chance to play in a World Cup....bet you don't even remember when it was 16 teams which qualified for finals only. And, just because it didn't suit that pricxck when he would not even apologise for his actions. McCarthy would have let him back and you think I am an asshouse. Keane is nothing only a knacker from the projects of Cork. IP: Logged |
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GUNTHER Senior Member Posts: 952 |
posted 04 July 2002 12:04 PM
quote: Your contention that you have "followed football" longer than anyone else on this site is dubious. IP: Logged |
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Mairegangaire Senior Member Posts: 694 |
posted 04 July 2002 12:18 PM
quote: Orion A few points : 1. I never claim or claimed to be an expert on anything, above all Soccer 2. Don't you ever question the pride I have for my country, I live and pay my taxes and contribute to my country and to its economy - unlike you 3. If you think hoping for someone to be firebomed in a car is acceptable behaviour then (I'll use your own expression if I may) you are the Retard 4. "And, just because it didn't suit that pricxck when he would not even apologise for his actions. McCarthy would have let him back " Wake up, it is known fact that Roy was ready to apologise until the FAI fcuked it up by releasing the 'players don't want him' 12 hours to early.. 5. It is hardly Roy Keanes fault that other 'better' players never got a chance to play in the world cup. 6. "bet you don't even remember when it was 16 teams which qualified for finals only." why should I, is it compulsary!?!? 7. "and you think I am an asshouse" right back at ya ... And on another note .. bearing in mind your adopted country's foreign policy "you're either with us or against us" does this mean that I now form part of your "Axis of Evil".... IP: Logged |
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cut_it_out! Member Posts: 14 |
posted 04 July 2002 12:31 PM
Surley you see Keane was tryin to do the best for his team in the first place to get better conditions etc for them! Mc Carthy was a fcuker to confront him the way he did! How was he supposed to go back after everything that went on quote: IP: Logged |
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Christy's Ring Senior Member Posts: 124 |
posted 04 July 2002 12:36 PM
I'll go out on a limb here Coreahln & say John Ryan(Clare) marked Mc Kenna in '81? IP: Logged |
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David Trimble Senior Member Posts: 250 |
posted 04 July 2002 12:45 PM
quote: YOU IGNORANT IGNORANT FCUKER, JUST CAUSE HE IS FROM MAYFIELD DOES THAT MEAN HE IS A SCUMBAG? IT IS OBVIOUS THE REASONS FOR THE BUST UP ARE LOST ON A PRETENTIOUS,HIGH AND MIGHTY FCUK LIKE YOU, KEANE WANTED TO WIN THE WORLD CUP AND ON THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT HAPPENED WE HAD A GOOD A CHANCE AS ANYONE, BUT THANKS TO MICK THE PR1CK AND THE FAI WE GLEEFULLY ACCEPTED SECOND PLACE AS FCUKING USUAL. IP: Logged |
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The Banner Roar Senior Member Posts: 173 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:12 PM
I guess now we know where Trimble is fronm - hes a Corkonian. Fiar play to ya Trimble, your right of corse, its not posssible for anyone else to know or have na opinion, now is it??? IP: Logged |
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IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1405 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:21 PM
quote: Correct Christy. Felt a bit sorry for him actually. Two of Big Joes goals were more Duracks fault then the full backs IP: Logged |
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LimerickNomad Senior Member Posts: 107 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:21 PM
Lads, Stick to the points made, which are all IP: Logged |
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IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1405 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:25 PM
quote: Correct LN anyway lads we're talking about a bucketful of spilt milk which has been licked up by the FAI at this stage. IP: Logged |
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Christy's Ring Senior Member Posts: 124 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:32 PM
I won't give my age away Mike but Stack has since said that he was the fault of 2, but anyway the thing to have done would have been to put in Jackie'Gorman on him, Ryan I beleive was 18 at the time!! Anyway time has passed & the wounds have healed somewhat! IP: Logged |
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Mairegangaire Senior Member Posts: 694 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:33 PM
quote: really then perhaps you can tell me what you find 'Valid' with : "I heard Keane's car was torched in England...pity the fucxker wasn't in it." IP: Logged |
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IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1405 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:35 PM
True Christy. I must say as a Limerick man I did have some sympathy for Clare that day. They were really in with a shout right up to half time. They were a goal up. I suppose the wriring was on the wall though. Big Joe burst the nety after less then a minute and sure the rest is history as they say. IP: Logged |
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maiguesider Senior Member Posts: 442 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:38 PM
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the keane topic is a yawn at rthis stage ; IP: Logged |
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David Trimble Senior Member Posts: 250 |
posted 04 July 2002 01:42 PM
quote: there is a whole big country outside of kilmaley or whatever ****hole you crawled out of, just cause i display a knowledge of geography does'nt make me a corkonian. IP: Logged |
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orion Senior Member Posts: 820 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:01 PM
Gunther: You must be mixing me up with someone else. I have never mentioned the Munster Semi or Final of '81. Truth is I was at the Semi Final of '81....on a day where you could count the Clare support it was that pathetic, but was on my way to France the day of the Final due to a prearranged holiday. I listened to the game on the radio, and was glad I was leaving the country. For Clare to not win that Munster Final after the display in beating a very good Cork side was very, very disappointing. Joe McKenna's goals to this day live on... My first Munster Final watching Clare live was 1972!!! Another day to be forgotten. IP: Logged |
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orion Senior Member Posts: 820 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:05 PM
Keane wants the whole world to lick his ass. The players went to Saipan to relax for a few days. Which, by all accounts helped them tremendously. Yet, it was not good enough for him. Ireland adapted much better to the conditions than England who could barely run in their game with Brazil. Then again, England went to the fucxking desert and spent 37,000 pounds in 5 days on drink!!! IP: Logged |
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Christy's Ring Senior Member Posts: 124 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:09 PM
...so something similar to Inagh/Kilnamona's trip for the w/end to the Imperial in '97???? IP: Logged |
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SaffronBlue Senior Member Posts: 828 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:10 PM
quote: Although I agree with some of the points you make, especially about the positioning of Duff, as Des Cahill pointed out on the radio the other day the statement "Ireland could have been in the final", which is very common at the moment, is a bit over-the-top. That statement has us winning THREE games, Spain, Korea and Germany. Quarter-final? - yes; Final? - Pie in the Sky. IP: Logged |
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David Trimble Senior Member Posts: 250 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:12 PM
quote: you are a complete spacer, where do you get your info from? also i think your letting on to be a lot older than you are, what kind of a fcuking eejjit are you?? IP: Logged |
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Tomas De Burca Senior Member Posts: 570 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:15 PM
Lads, my sincere apologies. Apparently the title of the book was merely the straw that broke the camel's back. The real issue apparently was the Dunphy did not have proper balls. IP: Logged |
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On the border Senior Member Posts: 620 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:16 PM
quote: How about this???? if we had topped the group which was well possible if we had not conceded two sloppy early goals in our opening matches, we would have had to beat Paraguay, USA and Korea to reach the final....thats not Pie in the Sky methinks.... IP: Logged |
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LimerickNomad Senior Member Posts: 107 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:22 PM
The "torching of RK's car" was so over the top as to be safely ignored in light of the other rational points made in the orion's message. Me thinks! IP: Logged |
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David Trimble Senior Member Posts: 250 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:29 PM
quote: this is completly true, niall quinn would have stuck about 5 goals past them midgets from korea, as for the other two teams they are non-entitys. a lot of morons in this country don't realise that we really could have got to the final. but sure there still happy with westlife in the phoenix park so let them off to fcuk, cause we've blown our best chance ever and no one gives a flying ****. IP: Logged |
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IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1405 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:41 PM
How about this If me aunt had balls she'd be me uncle. It's over lads FULL STOP IP: Logged |
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On the border Senior Member Posts: 620 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:46 PM
quote: Yea it is over but so is Limks championship and its still being discussed....the point is we had a chance that will never come again and no-one, as Trimble says, gives a flying fcuk... IP: Logged |
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David Trimble Senior Member Posts: 250 |
posted 04 July 2002 03:59 PM
quote: damm right, as bad as niall quinn is he would have destroyed korea, paraquay=sh1t, usa=sh1t, other teams in our group=sh1t. if keano was playing we would have had the necessary steel to win those games, now what are we left with ? a country full of inflatable hammer waving leprechauns who want a labotimised ape in the form of mccarthy for president, if things are'nt bad enough, we have to listen to the likes of that sniping cu*t tomas de burca and his self pontificating ilk going around spouting their ill-informed bile and pursuing their own bitter little agenda's. IP: Logged |
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IRON MIKE Senior Member Posts: 1405 |
posted 04 July 2002 04:01 PM
Can't agree there OTB. Limericks championship ended on Saturday evening and there was a couple of rants by people (my goodself included)But in fairness all the talk since Monday has been about the upcoming matches. IP: Logged |
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On the border Senior Member Posts: 620 |
posted 04 July 2002 04:04 PM
quote: fair enuf...it just bugs me what might have been if they all had got their head out of their ar$e and realised what we could have done.... IP: Logged |
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handsome Member Posts: 23 |
posted 04 July 2002 07:55 PM
quote: Hey tosspot, I could have sworn that Germany got second place or mabye i'm mistaken and as for Roy Keane let me first of all say that I am a Man United fan and Keane was always my favourite player at the club but although I think Mick McCarthy was not free of some blame I also think that Keane was most at fault in the situation. He let Ireland down very badly when he was most needed. IP: Logged |
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Tomas De Burca Senior Member Posts: 570 |
posted 04 July 2002 10:06 PM
Folks, this topic was set up for some light relief. It would appear that y'all take this soccer lark far too much to heart. Some of you even need to get; (1) a sense of perspective - Can youse not see that if we were one of the realistic contenders to win the world cup (even with Keane on the team), the soccer is well and truly phuqqed. (2) a sense of humour. )3) If any of you have a second thought on this, would you please lend it to Mr Trimble. IP: Logged |
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Tomas De Burca Senior Member Posts: 570 |
posted 04 July 2002 10:11 PM
quote: Please point out where you feel I am ill informed and which agenda precisely I am supposedly pursuing. Some people have proposed the theory that Keane is his own worst enemy. Well, not when I'm alive he isn't. IP: Logged |
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