R1b1 HG - Members y-DNA Results Table - 3,800+ R1b1 Irish members
Here is the complete R1b1 Haplogroup members results of IHDP. These results are for all members of IHDP, R1b1 is by far the largest Haplogroup in Ireland and this is reflected in the IHDP results.. The results table contains FTDNA, DNA Heritage and Oxford results, these where sorted and merged in MS Access. It also contains the Haplotype signiture for the Northwest Irish Modal (Niall of the Nine Hostages or more correctly R1b1b2e).There are grouping R1b1 sub groups, all confirmed SNP results are stated, by far the biggest coonfirmed grouping is R1b1b2, then, R1b1b2e, R1b1b2g, R1b1b2h, R1b1b2d in that order.
IMPORTANT: IHDP are looking for likely Irish Candidates for R1b1b2h , if you are considering testing for SNP and you feel you might be R1b1b2h contact Austin Rock.
The IHDP "sort" criteria is based on closest column matches running left to right. This page also contains an R1b1 SNP (sub-Clade) Table with a detailed breakdown of the sub-clades/groups within the R1b family.
ANNOUNCEMENT: IHDP can add additional marker results to the 67 offered by FTDNA. If you have been tested elsewhere and would like your additional markers included contact Austin Rock or any of the Administrators. Just be patient if you do make a request for inclusion of additional markers as they have to be manually entered!
IMPORTANT UPDATE: It is no longer possible to display the full results here due to the sheer size of the project. This makes the display of the R1b1 results extremely difficult. We are working on a much better solution and it will be unveiled to you all shortly. In the meantime the results are STILL available here on this page. However to Open Link, SAVE As Target, Print you can do so if you wish. Below you will find an explaination of how to access the IHDP members results. If you have an difficulty with this please contact the Administrators.
Irish R1b1
R1b1 is by far the most common Haplogroup in NW Europe, its highest percentages are in the West of Ireland and the percentages decline as you move eastwards and southwards. In Ireland the most common (as of writting) sub-group is R1b1b2 (R1b1c)of which R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) is but a further sub-group. Given the diversity of origin of Irish surnames and the many branches of even the most common surnames there is a common misconception that all surnames should in some way be related. Most of the mismatching of same surname results can be put down to this fundemental aspect of Irish genealogy. A few cases in point, Quinn, this Irish surname had at least four major separate dynasties in different parts of Ireland, Clare, North Connaught, Antrim and in parts of Donegal/Derry. These are not related and have different origins, it should be normal among this surname to find as a minimum four different haplotypes. This also applies to Murphy, Carroll, O'Connor, MacMahon etc where the amount of haplotypes would be even far greater. Even in less common Irish surnames, you can have many different points of origin. It is wrong to make assumptions with certain polygenetic surnames (surnames with many origins) as in a lot of cases this is no indicator of an expected match.
Important: Check out the R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) IHDP Analysis here: Focus on R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) and also below on this page is a regional look at the North Leinster area. Some important scientific research papers are listed here:
Eoganacht and Dal Cais research by Trinity: PATRILINEAL KINSHIP STRUCTURE OF EARLY MEDIEVAL IRELAND
Trinity researchers "...set out to investigate whether the Eóganacht and Dál Cais were each, like the Ui Neill in North, groupings based on shared patrilineal kinship stemming from foundation by a major ancestor and/or his clan.
Important Observations on Irish R1b1b2a2g (R1b1b2h*) (R1b1c10) - Glenn Nolen - Origins of the Irish and Scottish: Corca Luighe (Corca Laoidhe) and Dál Riada (Dál Riata) - Rb1b2a2g (R1b1b2h*) (R1b1c10) - DYS #385a and 385b at 11 and 17: A Corca Luighe (Corca Laoidhe) Ossory (Osraighe) and Dál Riada (Dál Riata) Uladh Haplotype in Co. Donegal, Ulster, Ireland, 1600s.
I.H.D.P Listing of R1b1 Members
In the results table below, Red Columns indicate Fast Mutating DYS Markers, these can and should be used to determine relatedness between close matching results. The Blue columns reflect the ten markers used in the appendices of Bryan Sykes book "Blood of the Isles" - Bantam press, London. The results associated with the book are available as a downloadable PDF file from the following website: Blood of the Isles. For information on the markers used by Prof Bradley at Trinity College in the R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) study check IHDP's own information here Focus on R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) . The Blue columns are useful guides for deep ancestry study. The results below with only R1b1 should be assumed to be Predicted Haplogroups, anything else is SNP tested for example R1b1b2, R1b1b2e, R1b1b2g.
Complete IHDP R1b1 Results Presentation - Including non-FTDNA members
Here is the complete set of IHDP membership results. In the Excell file there is an autofilter on the header to enable turning/on/off columns and carrying out queries. There are four new fields to the far right in the excell sheet below, Regional (Provincial), County, Historical and Reference. Note the County location is for the historical distribution of the surname, some surnames are widely distributed but the county location is the historical dynastic surname location. The Counties are abbriviated with the firt and last letter of the county DN = Down, Dublin = D, some counties cannot be represented in this way, Waterfrod = WD and Wexford = WX.
Important: Please check the results linked to this page, check to see if your listing is present. If your results are upgraded and you have received notification from FTDNA, let the Administrators know. The IHDP administrators are not always informed by FTDNA if your markers have been posted or if your Haplogroup (SNP test) has changed.
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Caution: You may view, save or print the yDNA results or other information on this site. Common courtesy requires permission to use the yDNA data here for anything other than personal use and privacy laws may govern its use. If you do use the yDNA data please ensure that permission is sought and obtained for its use from the individual members concerned. When information is being used and permission obtained please acknowledge this source. |
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North Leinster MJ Network Generated Chart - dated 05/2007
Below is an Median joining chart generated using Fluxus software (courtesy of Fluxus Enginneering). It is a small sample of surnames, confirmed or associated historically with the North Leinster area. All members sampled as part of this test are from the FTDNA membership - regional sorted on the Irish Heritage DNA Project FTDNA website. Aside from an analysis and presentation on the R1b1b2e webpage, this is the first IHDP presentation of this type of data.
The MJ Netwrok was created using the following DYS (most where used by Trinity in determining the North West Irish Modal Haplotype - R1b1c7 - some where excluded to maintain the sample numbers for instance DYS 436). The DYS/Alleles are as follows (in FTDNA order), DYS393, DYS390, DYS19, DYS391, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS388, DYS439, DYS389i, DYS390, DYS389ii, DYS437, DYS438.
Full Listing of the Kit Numbers
This is a full listing of all 60 members used to generated the above chart. You can also download the Data above in the form of a Text (ych) file, used to generate these types of charts. For data file Click here
R1b1 Sub-Clade Table of SNP Values
R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) is a sub-clade or a sub-group of R1b1b2 (R1b1c), the vast majority of Irish R1b are generally regarded as +M269 R1b1b2 (R1b1c). If you look at the table below it explains in a graphical way the relationships of all R1b1c classifications.
See also Who was Niall of the Nine Hostages? a Focus on R1b1b2e (R1b1c7) and DNA FAQ
Issued by Austin Rock