18th December, 2002
Dr. Henry: Senator Terry's point is very sensible because the logistics of the proposal seem incredible if each private vehicle coming through the ports, particularly during the summer, is to be inspected. Drivers who give lifts to hitchhikers are very vulnerable because they must be assured that the person has the correct documentation. These drivers who may not be involved in trafficking could end up receiving a very large fine.
The Leader of the House was correct in saying there are black bus drivers, people working here who are Irish citizens, and that black people will not be discriminated against in coming into the country. The point Senator Norris said is true because a black bus driver was recently held at the Border between Northern Ireland and the Republic. He was kept overnight in a Garda station in Dundalk. He was not driving the bus when arrested but was a passenger in the bus going on for another shift. This type of thing is happening.
I had dealings with a young woman whose baby is black, even though she is not. She took the child to England to see his father - I brought up this issue in the Seanad previously - and she had considerable difficulty when returning to the country. People are singled out and we would need to be careful in saying this will not happen.
Dr. Henry: I return to the logistics again. Senator McDowell made a very good point about how difficult this will be. If the State cannot find the people in question, how can those in charge of ferries find them? Is it envisaged that immigration officers will be on the gangway when cars are driven on board in Roscoff and Cherbourg?
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