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Ryan Family
John Ryan's Sons (John Ryan was my Great Grandfather)
Ryan Family Tree
Relationship to Spears Family
Rowe Family
Rowe Family Tree
Chestnutt Family
Chestnutt Family Tree
My own notes

Unfortunately I have very little knowledge of Moylan or Murray genealogy beyond immediate family. I do however have quite a bit of information about my maternal Grandparents' genealogy, courtesy of other people who did the leg-work. Many years ago a Fred Rowe from Montreal Canada was researching his family history and showed up in Waterford looking for Rowes (my Grandmother was a Rowe). He left a copy of his research with a cousin (Maire Redmond, nee Rowe).

About 12 or 15 years ago my mother's brother Danny did some research into the Ryan family, and also obtained the Rowe family information from Maire. He compiled his research into a set of notes, and included references to other families (Chestnutt, Cherry, Spears) whose members he knew quite well even though their relationship to him was quite distant.

Danny gave a copy of his notes to my mother, who gave them to me. I have amended some Chestnutt information following recent research by my parents into that branch of the family, and I have included my own generation.

Ryan Family

Place of Origin:
Farnavane (Farranhavane), in the Barony of Kinalmeaky, in the Union of Bandon, Co. Cork. Farnavane is 2-3 miles to the east of Newcestown, which is a very small village of Church, pub plus grocery, another small shop, and about two other houses. Farnavane is a townland in what appears to be reasonably good farmland, although it is difficult to see the terrain due to high hedges and trees. It is a countryside of low, undulating hills, with narrow winding roads, and the population appears to be well dispersed, with very few houses at the roadsides. There is a small church in Farnavane which is said to be about 200 years old. (The church in Newcestown was built of local stone and by voluntary labour in 1872.) Farnavane and Newcestown belong to the United Parishes of Murragh and Templemartin in the Diocese of Cork and Ross.

Sources:

Parish records on microfilm in National Library (above parish).
Custom House - registration of births, deaths and R.C. marriages since 1st. Jan. 1864.

1829 5th. April
Baptism of Daniel Ryan, son of Jerry Ryan and Margaret Regan. (This is not verified as being the Daniel Ryan traced below, but it seems likely in that it would give a marriage age of about 27 circa 1856/57, and also with the possibility of the first son being named after his grandfather - see below.)
There is no parish record of the marriage of Daniel Ryan to Anne Collins. It is assumed that such took place in a neighbouring parish - subject to verification. There is no record of Daniel Ryan as a farmer in the Griffith Valuation, 1850 (National Library), nor in the Valuation Office, Ely Place, Dublin for Farnavane 1860-94, Newcestown 1859-97 --- in fact there is no Ryan at all listed as a rate-payer in those years. (There are two brothers who own a farm in Newcestown now, one named Tim if I remember correctly, many of whose family emigrated - their ownership seems to date from this century. To be contacted.) Above at Ely Place to be re-checked.
1858 10th. May
Baptism of Catherine Ryan, daughter of Daniel Ryan and Anne Collins.
1859 1st. Nov
Baptism of Jeremiah Ryan, son of Daniel Ryan and Anne Collins - address given as Mountpleasant, which is in Farnavane area : there is a Mountpleasant P.O. (In the Parish Records the Ryan name appears fairly often, possibly related families, in the Farnavane - Mountpleasant area, including Daniel, (??) John, Timothy. Perhaps a more thorough and leisurely examination may sort them out ?)
1861 25th. Sep
Baptism of Michael Ryan, son of Daniel Ryan and Anne Collins. This is, presumably, the man who emigrated to New York and became an aide of Boss Croker of Tammany Hall (ill-)fame ? Died in New York. (When ?)
1864 30th. Jun
Baptism of John Ryan, son of Daniel Ryan and Nancy (Anne) Collins. (John Lyons, C.C.) Custom House Records give Birth Cert. date of birth 28th. June at Farnavane; father's occupation as labourer; "His mark" indicated - he may have been illiterate (?) - under heading "Signature of informant"; registered on 6th. July. Copy of registration obtained.
RE Bridget Ryan
who emigrated to Boston and married an O'Neill : - did not find Parish Record nor Custom House registration (1864-74). In fact, no parish records of baptism of any Bridget Ryan. Could this be Catherine by another name? Or is Bridget a later-added name (pet-name)? Subject to re-check; perhaps try Boston records?
1899
Copy of Marriage Certificate of John Ryan and Elizabeth Agnes Leonard obtained. Registered on 1st. Sep. 1899. Took place in R.C. Chapel in Grogan in Reg. District of Borris-in-Ossory in the Union of Roscrea on 28th. Aug. 1899. Married by Henry Brennan C.C.; Witnesses :- Thomas E. Gunn (or Green?); Kate Leonard. Final columns:-

Rank/Profession

Residence at time

Father's Name

Rank/Prof. of Father

Constable R.I.C. Ballybrophy Daniel Ryan Farmer

Dressmaker Rathdowney Thomas Leonard Coachman
John Ryan (snr.)
Joined R.I.C. 3/12/1885. Dark eyes, dark hair, fresh complexion, 6'1". Disbanded 11/4/1922. Rank of Sergeant (No. 51520). Period of enforced exile - No.1 & 2 Tennison St., London S.E.1. Married Elizabeth Agnes Leonard of Ivy Cottage, Rathdowney, 28th. Aug. 1899. Stationed at Ballybrophy, Stradbally, Waterford (Shortcourse), Ballyduff (1905), Waterford (Barrack St.). Lived at No.1 O'Brien Street. Family:- John, Daniel C., Timothy, William, James, Thomas, Gerard, Patrick V. (died young). Died at No.1 O'Brien St. on the morning of 4th. March 1941. It is not known when his father, Daniel, died. His mother, Anne (Nancy, nee Collins), emigrated to New York, presumably after the death of her husband, and lived with son Michael, and died there.

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John Ryan's sons

John (Jack)
Close ties with Rathdowney, where he later married and reared a family. Joined army in 1915 (under-age). Mustard-gassed, and subsequently had poor health. Died in Rathdowney in 1946.
Daniel Christopher (my Grandfather)
Born 12th. Dec. 1900. Lived most of life in Waterford. Worked for British Railways. Retired as Chief Clerk in 1965. Died 7th. Oct. 1983.
Timothy
Died in Bournemouth. Unmarried.
William (Bill)
Joined R.I.C. in 1920/21. Stationed at Drogheda. Disbanded in 1922 - enforced exile in London. Emigrated to Australia (Sydney), where he worked as a prison warder, married a widow with one daughter. Died there.
James (Jim)
Worked for British Rail. Spent most of adult life in Cork City, was also Harbour Master in Dun Laoghaire. Married Phyllis O'Sullivan - no family.
Thomas (Tom)
Emigrated to Bristol, married (Kitty), 2 sons, one of whom was killed in road accident at 15 years. In 15th. Armoured Division in World War II. Employed in aircraft factory.
Gerard
In teens developed encephalitis lethargica - invalid for rest of life in Waterford.
Patrick Vincent
Died in childhood.

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Ryan Family Tree

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Relationship to Spears Family

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Rowe Family

Line of descent	Particulars	Children	Dates of birth
Thomas Rowe I of Redruth, Cornwall.	Wife Ann (surname unknown). Dates of birth/death not discovered. Marriage not in Redruth registers.	Henry Thomas - born in Redruth, baptised 21st. Sep. John William	1781 1783 1785 1789
Thomas Rowe II	Married to Sarah Roberts in Redruth, 19th. Jan.1807. Butcher by trade. Lived at Fore Street, East End, Redruth. No record of deaths.	Kitty William - baptised 29th. May George John Louisa Henry	1813 1814 1816? 1819? 1823? 1826?
William Rowe	Married Ann Courtnay, (born c.1821, daughter of John C., labourer) on 13th. Sep. 1842, at Church of East Teignmouth, Devon. She was born in Silverton, Devon. He was groom or ostler. They lived at Exeter, Devon; 13 Cross Lane, Bath, Somerset; 3 White Lion Court, Newport, Monmouth, where he died on 18th. Jan. 1875, aged 59.	W. Henry - Exeter John - Exeter Sarah Ann - Exeter (later Griffith, Hill St., Newport) Joseph - Exeter - born 22nd. Oct. (in Bath by 1851) Elizabeth - Newport Henry - Newport Anne - Newport	1843 1845 1847 1850 1856 1858 1864
Joseph Rowe	Poulterer by trade: later taxidermist (in Waterford). Married Elizabeth Chestnutt in Waterford (She died in 1948, aged 84 - born 1864.)	Edward - Waterford Anne Albert Percy Rose William	1900
Rose Rowe (my Grandmother)	Married Daniel C Ryan. Lived in Poleberry, Waterford.	Sean (died in childhood) Elizabeth Daniel Bernadette Ursula Patricia
Elizabeth Ryan	Married Thomas Murray	Christopher Olivia Geraldine	1955 1956 1960
Olivia Murray	Married Thomas Moylan	Patricia John	1988 1995

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Rowe Family Tree

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Chestnutt Family

Of possible Huguenot descent and from Arnestown in Co. Wexford.
Sister & 2 brothers : Hannah, Alexander & John.

John married Rachel Jeacle from Rathnure, children include Alex Chestnutt, an organ-builder by trade, and John Samuel Chestnutt (father of Mabel & Chris), 3rd Engineer, S.S. Conningbeg, d. 17 Dec 1917 at age 41, when S.S. Conningbeg was torpedoed in Irish Sea with loss of all hands.

Hannah married Sam Hartrick (one of the New Ross Hartricks of Palatine German family origin - see The Hartrick Clan Website for more information) in New Ross in 1875. They had 4 daughters :- Isabella Jane, Elizabeth, Maria and Winifred. Jane married a Cherry, children include Nan & Dorothy Cherry. Elizabeth married her cousin Alex Chestnutt, children were Betty and Lily.

Alexander was father of Elizabeth Chestnutt who married Joseph Rowe, and grand-father of E. Rose Rowe. Alexander Chestnutt was also father of John (lived in England? - Uncle John, fat, jolly, white-bearded), and of Robert (father of Bobby, Oliver, Freddie, Billy, Dolly), of Sarah (married a Kirkham), of Caroline (married a Sharpe, lived in Dun Laoghaire, parents of Ruth).

Said to be some connection through Chestnutt/Cherry side with composer William Vincent Wallace (Maritana, Lurline, The Amber Witch), born in Colbeck street, Waterford in 1812, the son of a Mayo man who married a Waterford girl.

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Chestnutt Family Tree

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Other Rowe descendants (my own notes)

My Grandmother Rose Rowe's sister Anne (Nanny) married Charles Price and they had one daughter, Betty.

Her brother Albert Rowe had 4 daughters (Nancy, Maire, Eily and Betty) and 4 sons (Owen, Dermot, Joseph and Terence).

Nancy Rowe married William Morrisey (children Anne, Brenda, Eleanor, Nuala, David, Alan).
Maire Rowe married Richard Redmond (children Carmel, Tony, Ian, Ailis).
Eily Rowe married Larry Whittle (children Laura, Peter, Rosemary, Eleanor).
Betty Rowe married John Nolan (children Helen, Peter, John, Jim).
The Morriseys, Redmonds, Whittles and Nolans all spent large amounts of time in Ballymacaw (see our Waterford Page) as children, since the cottage we now holiday in was once the Redmond holiday home, and I have many happy memories of growing up there with a large extended family.

My Mother's brother Danny (who did the Ryan Family research) married Kathleen McNeill (children George, Maire, Bernadette, Anne).They lived in Letterkenny.
Her sister Ursula married Sean Ryan from Rathdowney (children Emer, Eoin, Martin. They live in England, and also holidayed in Ballymacaw as children).
Her sister Pat married Michael Lacey (children Gordon, David, Andrew, Niamh, Aoife, Roisin), and they still holiday in Ballymacaw.

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Changes last made on Tuesday 4 February 2003

Rank/Profession	Residence at time	Father's Name	Rank/Prof. of Father
Constable R.I.C.	Ballybrophy	Daniel Ryan	Farmer
Dressmaker	Rathdowney	Thomas Leonard	Coachman