Dublin Demons
Australian Rules Football Club










MINUTES OF MEETING
 
 




MEETING DATE: Friday 2nd February 2001
VENUE: Russell Court Hotel
Time: 8.00pm
Minutes taken by: Kabir (KB)

1. With the creation of ARFLI this year each Club must put forward a representative, Crispy has been put forward as the Dublin Demons Rep.

2. Dave Tierney appointed as Dublin Demons selector for Irish internal team.

3 .Sponsorship for 2002 world cup, Ian Bracken is looking into the possibility of Quantas sponsoring the Irish Team, suggestions are to look at Guinness as well but no action has been taken on this.

4. There was also a Proposal for a 3 nations Ireland, Denmark, and England. But this is a matter for ARFLI to consider.

5. As only Irish Nationals can participate in the Irish squad a recommendation was made to have an Irish Aussie team that travels with the Irish Team and play say the English Aussies.

6. Reminder that the new 9 aside tournament starts on the 3rd of march (with 6 teams competing two of which will be from the Dublin Demons)

7. The North London Lions may be coming to Dublin for the St Patrick's day Weekend. 

8. The Fss Cup will take place on the 21st April in London

9. The 18 Aside Tournament will start on 16th June with the addition of Drogeda Dockers and the Leeside Lions. 

10. Reminder that Insurance is Due in March.

11. Polo Shirts: 

  • Member price £15 (Please not by member I mean those that have paid there £30 dues for this season.)
  • Non Member price £20, proceeds to the club
  • Agreed additional shirts required – 3 Medium, 5 large, 5 extra large.  ACTION: Mark O’Donnell
  • A suggestion has been made that we look into the cost of getting Rugby jerseys done up instead of Polo Shirts
12. Possibility of getting a squad to Chicago for the Tournament in August. I'll Look after this end as I'll be in Chicago this summer. ACTION: Kabir Vaderaa

13. There is some Jerseys  in Melbourne, the only problem is getting them over.  The AFL has some more gear for us and will confirm on the 9th February what is been sent over. We are to see if it is possible to get the jerseys sent along with the other gear. If not It might be possible to get some of Stuarts Friends to bring them over. ACTION: Ciaran O'Hara 

14. Membership will be £30 for the season, this should be given to either Mark O’Donnell or myself. NB Fees must be paid by the 3rd of March. If you wish to play in a match you must pay.

15. Selection Of Team
This year there will be a panel of selectors. both Matt Campbell and David Tierney have been elected to this panel. the final member of the panel will be the coach who is to be announced.

  • The team will be pick from the paid members
  • Those that have attended at least 1 training season a month 
16. Appointment of a Coach: Nutty as put his name down but it was agreed that we should also advertise this position 

In the following newspapers/mags

  • Buy & Sell
  • People
ACTION: Mark O’Donnell 
  • Evening Herald 
  • What Dublin Magazine. 
ACTION: Colm Cronin 

Ciaran will ring some of his journalist friends and see they can get something put in the papers.

ACTION: Ciaran O'Hara

A coach will be official elected in the next few weeks. In the mean time Diggs will take training seasons.

17. Assistant Coach:  Matt Campbell(Diggs) has put him self forward for this position.

18. Structure of meetings: it was agreed that each meeting will contain a follow up to the previous meeting, and any new Activities. If anyone has any question are particular points they would like to committee to look at please forward the to me Kabir@dol.ie and I bring them up.

19. Randiroo: 

  • There is a possibility that we can sell Randiroo to Major Toms and get a fixed income of £200.
  • It was agreed to make the offer to the Russell Court Hotel first and see what there response was ACTION: Matt Campbell
  • It was also proposed to alternate the takings from the event one month to ARFLI the Next to the Dublin Demons however the other participating clubs in the league should also make some form of contribution.
  • The Next Randiroo is the 1st March and a decision must be made weather to continue with it.
    • Should Randiroo be continued it is proposed to have two working committee each taking change every alternative month.
    • Those who put there name forward for the Randiroo committee are Dan,Matt,Stuart,Crispy.
  • Look into copy writing the name ACTION: Kabir Vaderaa 
Membership cards
  • Look into the cost of getting cards done up ACTION: Kabir Vaderaa
Apologies:
  • Nail Hunt
Election of the new committee will take place at the next Meeting

Next Meeting:

  • Sunday 11th February - after Training 

MEETING DATE: Thursday 17th August 2000
VENUE: Russell Court Hotel
Time: 8.30pm
Minutes taken by: Crispy

1. New Executives elected to replace Jeremy, Ken and Glen. The Executive committee is now:

  • President: Colm Cronin
  • Vice President: Crispy
  • Treasurer: Mark O'Donnell
  • Secretary: Kabir Vaderaa
  • Tom (DJ) Hinds
  • Matty (Digs)Campbell
  • Nial Tuke
2. Domain name www.dublindemons.com was agreed. It was chosen over www.dublindemons.ie because the .com is more widely none by travelling aussies. A budget of £75 for two years was allocated. The domain name is to be obtained as soon as possible. ACTION: Crispy

3. A first aid kit is to be purchased for games and training as soon as possible. The kit is to be suitable for sport injuries as opposed to industrial work injuries. ACTION: Tom Hinds. Mark gave Tom £50 cash on the night.

4. A call to St John Ambulance to determine the cost for attending games. The members were split on whether it will be money worth spending. A final decision to be made after a cost obtained. ACTION: Michael Currane (to obtain cost only).

5. Polo Shirts: 

  • Member price £15 (at cost)
  • Non Member price £20, proceeds to the club
  • Agreed additional shirts required before Randiroo – 5 large, 5 extra large. Payment in full by 8th  September on condition that the shirts are acceptable (ie: faultless logo on black polo shirts, Kartel or equivalent). ACTION: Mark O’Donnell
  • Need pricing for domain name either on sleeve or stitched under emblem. Four executives are to approve before proceeding. ACTION: Mark O’Donnell
6. Insurance: It was again noted that the club insurance is third party only, that injury and medical expenses are not covered. Third party insurance is mandatory to play on other club pitches. The third party insurance costs £300 and will be due for renewal in March 2001. 

7. Membership form: A membership form is to be established for new members. A note regarding the minimum insurance cover is to be placed on the form to notify members. 

8. Constitution Rev B was issued. Members are free to suggest amendments to the constitution. It was noted that, with event of Randiroo,  the club becoming involved in social and Australian cultural events. It was discussed whether the constitution should be altered to promote Australian culture or whether it should remain to promote Australian football.

9. Playing a game: It was agreed that, if there was an excess of players attending a match,  preference over playing ability shall be given to those players who have

  • Paid memberships
  • Attended training sessions
10. Membership fees: Membership fees to continue as before, £30 for a full year or £10 for the first month and £20 for the remainder within the month. The Treasurer and Secretary to collect the fees, get players to fill out the membership form and issue receipts. ACTION: Mark and Kabir

11. Copenhagen game: Foreign Teams need a contact for assistance and encouragement. ACTION: Adam

12. Randiroo subcommittee was formed to quickly action relevant business. The committee is as follows:

  • Tom Hinds
  • Matty (Digs) Campbell
  • Crispy
  • Ciaran O’Hara
13. Randiroo night:
  • Semi final Aussie rules  tape required for screening: ACTION: JD
  • Flyers for RandiRoo/Copenhagen/DublinDemons, etc: Mick Curane
  • VB or aussie beer at the venue. Noted that it is difficult, but still trying. ACTION: Colm to inform Diggs of the off-licence store in the UK.
Attendance:
  • Colm, Crispy, Mark O'Donnell, Adam, Digs, Rob, Tom hinds, Kabir, Kerran Hobbs, Mick Currane, Sean, JD
Apologies:
  • Ciaran O'Hara


MEETING DATE: Thursday 25th May 2000
VENUE: Russell Court Hotel
Time: 8.30pm
Minutes taken by: Crispy

1. Games, Games, Games

  • Time to pull a finger out and get games happening for summer.
  • 10th June: Proposed game against the Redbacks in Belfast. ACTION: Colm to talk to the Redbacks.
  • 17th June: Proposed Compromised game against Clonnagael. ACTION: John McKenna to talk to Clonnagael.
  • 24th June: Proposed game against a London team. Give it a week to find a team. If so - we plan to send around fliers and advertise the game in unison with the Good Shepherd's Appeal for Albanian orphans (see below). ACTION: Matty Conquest is to contact Shane - can we also get a ground for 24th June? Coach and Elpresidente to contact London teams. Cess and JD to get kangaroo Mascot.Chris Vekic to organise charity permit.
  • 8th July:Proposed game against the Redbacks in Belfast. ACTION: Colm to talk to the Redbacks.
  • 22nd July: Shane has found us a ground to play the Bush Raiders in Dublin. We have a full Dublin Team (who came third in the FSS CUP), a ground, jumpers, goals, groupies and plenty of Guinness for the Bush Raiders Game. ACTION: Colm to talk the Raiders to confirm.
2. Albanian Orphans
  • Chris Vekic is going to Albania to help the Orphans over there. The Good Shepherd is a charity for Orphaned Albanian kids. It was originally started by an Aussie woman - so has an Aussie association to it. The Demon members present agreed to help out by getting a Boxing Kangaroo outfit, hitting the streets and collecting donations. At the same time, we could be handing out fliers regarding the game.
3. Mooners Farewell Party
  • Mooners has organised a farewell party for himself and the other lads that are parting ways. Its at The Russell Court for the 24th June. He would like it to be after the match and invite all the players along.
  • Entry will be £5 at the door to cover food and the room. Light meal will be provided. Leftover money to go to the Orphan Appeal.
4. People Leaving
  • 1 June - Walshy
  • 23rd June or Maybe Oct - Ken Orse - off to New York, New York, "I'm spreading the news..."
  • 24th June - Mooners - going through Europe
  • 1st August - Matty Conquest
  • 1st August - Jessa - over to spain
  • 1st August - Chris Vekic - over to Albania - Back in September
  • Soon - Mossy - over to Pommyland
  • October - Kerran Hobbs
5. Apologies:
  • Kerran Hobbs - had to pick up his miss's from the airport
  • Mossy - no beer money
  • Jezza - work stuff
  • Digs - booked the Hotel, but couldn't make it.
6. Next Meeting:
  • Thursday 1st June - Russell Court Hotel - 8:30pm.

MEETING DATE: Saturday 19th February 2000
VENUE: Russell Court Hotel
Time: 3.00pm
Minutes taken by: Jezza

1. Insurance Revisited

  • We got together on the day that the Irish broke the Scottish dominance in that muddy slog that is six nations rugby. 
  • Crispy the VP proclaimed that from this day forth the 3rd Party Public Liability insurance was sorted.
  • Crispy said he was going to pay the money out of his own pocket during the week. He just wanted to make sure that we would pay him back and confirm that we were committed  to paying money for insurance and the Demons.
  • The Wages Continuance and Lifetime Disability insurance would be approximately £2000, which was too expensive for our budget. All those present was in favour with proceeding with the 3rd Party Liability.
2. Membership
  • The membership fee is the bargain cost of 30 pounds. This covers insurance and equipment. All those present were in favour.
  • Games and drinking shirts etc. are likely to be added costs.  Students could pay the money in instalments.
  • The people who committed themselves to pay the money are :
    • Mark O’Shea , Declan Cotter , Jeremy Greay, Chris Horgan , Kerron Hobbs ,  Ken Orce , Mick Currane , Ciaran O’Hara , Steve Brennan , Matt Campbell , Dave Walsh
3. Other
  • We also pleaded Kerron to stay and coach and not leave us for the Tipperary Tigers. 
  • And we said goodbye to our big  blonde German speaking Italian Ulf. 

 



MEETING DATE: Thursday 10th February 2000
VENUE: Russell Court Hotel
Time: 8.00pm
Minutes taken by: Jezza

DRAFT Minutes
Open for comment before being finalised contact Jeremy on jgreay@dublin.mcos.ie or
phone 288 4499 (W) : 284 1417 (H)
 

1. Minutes of Last Meeting

  • No comments from the last set of minutes so the Draft is now the official minutes of that meeting.
2. Apologies
  •  Kerron Hobbs, Mark O’Shea, Niall Hunt
3. Club structure
  • Ken and Crispy had worked out a draft Constitution for us to look at. This constitution looks for a president to be elected and the president to chose the rest of the committee. 
  • Colm Cronin was nominated as the president and was unanimously voted in as the president by the rest of the members present.
  • At the end of the meeting Colm chose the rest of the committee. Before we get into the names it should be noted that the committee is really just a set of names for the paperwork. i.e people who have been doing lots of things to get the club moving can still help out, make decisions and get involved in anything that they want to. 
  • Crispy was keen to elect a Committee at this meeting to get the ball rolling and start setting things up like the bank account and the insurance.
  • The executive committee is:
    • President : Colm Cronin
    • V. Pres : Crispy
    • Treasurer : Glenn Cummins
    • Secretary : Jeremy Greay
    • Marketing Manager : Ken Orce
    • Member : Niall Tuke
    • Coach / can be on committee if he wants : Kerron Hobbs
  • Non executive positions elected were :
    • Public relations officer (non executive) : Mick 
    • Social Activities manager : Matt Campbell
  • Logo- Ken brought some ideas for the logo. There was some debate about leprechauns and naked chicks. Basically a few of the guys said they would bring along some ideas and we would have a look see and a vote. Action : Manga man JD, Princess Dave, Ciaran (RTE) O’Hara and Colm
  • Ken had been busy doing his job before he was even elected he had some quotes for shirts of £8.50 a t-shirt , £13.50 for a polo shirt, and   £16.00 for a nice polo shirt. There was a cost of £50 to get an electronic stamp made up. Then you can stamp whatever the hell you like boxer shorts, ties, condoms, you arm..


4. Insurance

  • Insurance seems to be the public liability option. To get under the GAA insurance you have to join a Gaelic club and play Gaelic football. We are trying to have our own Aussie Rules identity so would not get involved with a GAA club. 
  • The public liability option gives the club cover if anything goes wrong during a game or a social function. Quotes are around £300. Crispy to look at Wages insurance (that will pay your salary if you have to take time off work due to injury) and also Lifetime Disability insurance in the unlikely event that some thing goes really badly.
5. Finance
  • Glenn said he would set up a bank account and we signed some papers so it should be all systems go.
  • Still need some quotes on equipment. The goal post debate was a fairly lively one. Studley , Big Dave to look at the posts being made up they wanted to know the sizes required. Crispy said he would help out with his engineering skills as well. 
  • Goal posts Action : Studley, Big Dave, Crispy 
6. Home ground
  • Niall (as a Dub Corp spokesman) said that no more park lands would be made available for sport we have to approach clubs. 
  • Niall has been in contact with the parks superintendent and they have pointed him in the right direction. We are trying to get a proposal together indicating insurance, goal posts, boundary lines etc. Then we have to approach the councils. 


7. Fixtures / Training 

  • The Wicklow game was delayed until we are covered by insurance. 
  • Unfortunately the Boston game is a bit of a non-starter as well due to club re-structuring.
  • Some of the London clubs are definitely interested. Colm is organising some games there.
  • Floor space and beds are required to house Londoners. Colm has collected details from the lads who have the floor space available.
8. Entertainment / Social 
  • Matt will look at a paintball excursion. Can have up to 30 people going need a minimum of about 10. The cost is 18 quid. There is extra cost for rounds of ammo (bring your own tin of paint?). Maybe Saturday the 11th of March


9. Publicity / Sponsorship
 

  • Web site looks good (no shit - crispy). Although it has not been updated for a few weeks (hey give me a break! - crispy). The counter is not working at the moment either.     Action : Crispy, Chris
  • Ciaran and Mick talking to media groups about interviews. Getting a fair bit of interest. They are looking for fluent Gaelic speakers for interviews.
  • Ken, Mick and Ciaran have started to look at sponsorship options. Trying to get some sponsorship in place before we get a lot of publicity. The novelty value of being an Aussie rules club seems to be working well.    Action : Ciaran, Mick, Ken
8. Other 
  • It is late on Friday so I am doing a very draft and quick minutes with lots of stuff missing. One week later I am filling in some gaps but have forgotten my notes. So apologies for missing stuff. 
9. Next meeting
  • Next Saturday for a rugby game to take some money and decide on which insurance to go for.


MEETING DATE:Thurday 20th Janurary 2000
VENUE: Russell Court Hotel
Minutes taken by: Jezza

Open for comment before being finalised contact Jeremy on jgreay@dublin.mcos.ie or phone 288 4499(W) : 284 1417(H)
Apologies that the minutes are very boring and not very entertaining

1. Minutes of Last Meeting

  • Not available. 
  • Several Committees were formed to look into different activities. The committees have not met since.


2. Club structure - Action:All

  • A committee needs to be elected. At the end of the minutes is a very draft suggestion for positions and responsibilities of the committee. 
  • A constitution needs to be developed. Copying the AFL constitution was suggested. Training Sunday Dave mentioned the GAA constitution was also relevant and had a proposed committee structure.
3. Insurance - Action:Kerron Hobbs, Chris Horgan, Brendon
  • It was noted that insurance is the main objective at present. Insurance is needed before games can be organised. Finances will also be heavily influenced by insurance.
  • Kerron (the Aussie and coach) had a quote from an insurance broker of £250. It seems that we need to budget approximately £300 for insuring the team.
  • Chris (the tall bearded Aussie) had approached the GAA for information and was waiting for a reply. 

  • Brendon said that at his GAA club a figure of £100 was normal. These quotes/leads will be followed up by these guys.


4. Finance - Action:Glen

  • A bank account needs to be set up. It was suggested Glen (the Aussie Bombers fan) who was an accountant could set up an account (note Glen leaving at the end of April).
  • A membership fee will need to be worked out. This will be dependent on costs of insurance and equipment. From the prices for equipment quoted by the IAFC, Glenn will work out an approximate price for equipment. These prices will also be subject to postage / freight costs.
  • Colm said there may be a cheaper option from Los Angeles.
5. Fixtures/Grounds - Action : Niall, Colm, Kerron Hobbs, Chris Horgan
  • We have been contacted by two GAA (Donnybrook and Wicklow) clubs to play practice matches. These games would probably be compromise rules with a round ball. Maybe able to play half the game with the oval ball. 
  • Game against Wicklow probable on Sunday 6th March. Chris to finalise.
  • Kerron Hobbs would organise a busdown to Wicklow from the city.
  • Belfast Redbacks: have not confirmed a date for the game. Some representatives of the Redbacks will be in Dublin on Sunday 30th of January and we should be able to confirm something then.
  • Boston Demons : definitely coming for a game on Saturday March 18th . They will be here for St Patricks Day and a trip to Croke Park on Paddys Day is planned.
  • Wandsworth Demons definitely coming for a pre-season trip. End of March, start of April
  • Bundaberg Cup: The BARFL preseason cup is scheduled for April 15th . Trip to London ?
  • HOME Ground : A ground for home games needs to be found. Niall works in Dub. Corp. so he would look into it.
6. Entertainment- Action : Niall, Matt, Matt
  • No game organised for Australia Day (Jan 26th) so a party needs to be held instead. Niall and Matt may be able to offer their place on Friday the 28th if not we will try to go to the Russell Court on Saturday the 29th.
  • Information will need to be passed around by e-mail this week.
7. Publicity / Sponsorship - Action: Chris HOrgan, Chris Dooley, Mick, Colm, Kerron
  • Not much progress with Sponsorship. Colm had some replies from AFL clubs. 
  • A suggestion that we ask AFL clubs for their old training jumpers. 
  • The sub-committee on sponsorship or a publicity officer needs to start actively searching for and formalising sponsorship. Mick would like to be involved with media relations, Mick or Colm can deal with requests by newspapers, radios etc. for interviews. If an Aussie accent is required maybe Kerron can help.
  • Chris (crispy) Horgan and Chris Dooley to look after the web site.
8. Other
  • Mick McCormack can borrow a set of jumpers for upcoming games
  • Mark will record attendance at training.
  • Attendance at training will influence selection for games.
  • Colm divided up our list of contacts to call people and get more numbers at training.
  • Spouses/ partners/ girlfriends should be made to feel welcome at the club.
9. Next meeting
  • To keep the ball rolling at this early stage of development we should probably meet every 2 weeks. Propose that we meet Thursday February 3rd at the Russell Court at 8pm. Maybe a committee can be nominated or elected at this meeting.
COMMITTEE STRUCTURE (Suggested)
  • President : Fixtures, Contact with AFL, BARFL, IAFC etc.
  • Vice President : Equipment manager, Membership, recruitment, attendance records
  • Treasurer : Finance, banking, insurance
  • Secretary : Meetings, minutes, admin.
  • Social Organiser : Parties, midweek activities
  • Publicity officer ; Sponsorship, media relations, internet
  • Manager : Equipment, Organise transport for games

  • Coach : Coaching, training